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Apr 07, 2008 09:21 |  #1

Why aren't these photos sharp?

I had a rare opportunity last night to go out and do some shooting all by myself (I usually have my two boys along) and decided to try to capture the lovely Pittsburgh skyline.

I shot these images with a Rebel XTi on a tripod and used a wireless shutter release, autofocused, with lenses noted below. None of them look sharp to me. Any ideas where I went wrong?

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Apr 07, 2008 09:25 |  #2

looks to me that you had a very wide DOF. (f/1.8, f/2.8 ) -- if you wanted to get EVERYTHING sharp & in focus, maybe should have gone with something more centered: f/8 or f/11 ?? Of course you would have need a longer shutter speed with the less light at those apertures; but you were using a tripod anyway. Just a thought. Nice composition though.


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Apr 07, 2008 09:30 |  #3

cody: they were taken with small apertures. i think you're a bit confused heh.

To me, they like fine. But it's really hard to judge when the images are so small and dark.

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Apr 07, 2008 09:30 |  #4

Cody21 wrote in post #5277371 (external link)
looks to me that you had a very wide DOF. (f/1.8, f/2.8 ) -- if you wanted to get EVERYTHING sharp & in focus, maybe should have gone with something more centered: f/8 or f/11 ?? Of course you would have need a longer shutter speed with the less light at those apertures; but you were using a tripod anyway. Just a thought. Nice composition though.

Oops... I didn't make very clear above. the first line was which lens I used (wasn't sure if that would be relevant info?) and the second line, which I just bolded, are the shutter speed and aperture settings.


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Apr 07, 2008 09:36 |  #5

Hard to tell with such small pics. Post some 50% crops.


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Apr 07, 2008 09:46 |  #6

Mirror Lock up used? It could possibly be culprit.


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Apr 07, 2008 09:53 |  #7

sadatk wrote in post #5277404 (external link)
cody: they were taken with small apertures. i think you're a bit confused heh.

I misread her aperture setting ... I stand corrected .. :-)


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Apr 07, 2008 10:36 |  #8

Were they taken through glass?
Was it a hazy day (evening)?

They look pretty good to me actually.
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Apr 07, 2008 10:39 as a reply to  @ tomd's post |  #9

Mirror lock-up not used - I will have to look up what that is, I'm not familiar with it. Not taken through glass. It didn't seem hazy to me.

This was also my first time shooting in RAW.

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I'm sort of relieved to hear that they look ok to some of you... perhaps I need glasses. :eek:


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Apr 07, 2008 10:57 |  #10

I've opened a few: Looks sharp enough IMO.

You could use some different (higher) sharpening settings in the Raw converter, but IMO it's not needed.


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Apr 07, 2008 11:02 |  #11

Cody21 wrote in post #5277371 (external link)
looks to me that you had a very wide DOF. (f/1.8, f/2.8 ) -- if you wanted to get EVERYTHING sharp & in focus, maybe should have gone with something more centered: f/8 or f/11 ?? Of course you would have need a longer shutter speed with the less light at those apertures; but you were using a tripod anyway. Just a thought. Nice composition though.

Don't you mean the opposite - a shallow or narrow depth of field?




  
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Apr 07, 2008 11:09 |  #12

Roy Mathers wrote in post #5277946 (external link)
Don't you mean the opposite - a shallow or narrow depth of field?

doi ... yea, that's what I meant ... (I always seem to get those terms backwards... must tatoo back of hand... lol )

I think i always refer to Wide Open as in a Wider Apertue (f/2.8 )--

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Apr 07, 2008 11:19 |  #13

Christy, did you shoot these in RAW format? I think they are somewhat underexposed and could be brought out a little. Of course, if you do that, you will loose some of the detail in the sky. To correct for this, if you have shot these in RAW, you can layer an underexposed image for the sky, and a correctly exposed image for the cityscape and then methodically remove the sky from the correctly exposed image of the buildings to expose the layer beneath of the underexposed sky. By merging these two images you will get a city that is correctly exposed and a sky that has more drama. Of course, RAW format is important.


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Apr 07, 2008 11:19 |  #14

Tamron 17-500mm

This is probably a typo, and meant to be 17-50mm - but he did write it twice for the first two shots. :) Otherwise, I would have commented about superzooms having worse image quality compared to normal zooms, and especially when compared to primes.


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Apr 07, 2008 11:26 |  #15

Cody21 wrote in post #5277992 (external link)
doi ... yea, that's what I meant ... (I always seem to get those terms backwards... must tatoo back of hand... lol )

I think i always refer to Wide Open as in a Wider Apertue (f/2.8 )--

Thanks

Well, you're right there - wide open does mean the widest aperture:)




  
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