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Wildlife/Birdies? A Gimbal Head for Everyman/woman!

 
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Apr 11, 2008 04:51 |  #1

You ever thought of investing in a gimbal head? No fashion fans it's not the latest trendy London hairstyle but rather a super flexible tripod head for use with all your big boy birdy and animal and airplane style lenses.

Sure you can go Wimberley (external link) or Kirk (external link) and feel proud that you own the best and happy that you can now sneer at your safari shootin' pals at the next waterhole, that's you're choice. Or you can save your hard earned cash (or the wife's hard earned cash in the case of Petkal and Marky!) to spend on chocolate and high-heel shoes, as well as acquire a cool gimbal all of your own (that's your own gimbal CDi, not your own Gimp!)

I found a close clone of the Kirk King Cobra (external link) so thought I'd give it a go. I was half expecting junk, but driven on by previous budget buy specials like the famous Gap Man Bag, aka the street shooter special ...

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... the Dynatran 'Tightwad Tripod' carbon fibre special ...

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... I slapped my credit card on table and ordered the thing from here (external link), plus a couple of clone 'Arca-Swiss' plates, the P20 and P30, to support some big boy lenses. I also got a big QR system for my camera body to put on a Manfrotto 488 and for exclusive landscape use, but will review that at some later date ;-)a You can get the Kirk clone like me or a full Wimberley clone which is a bit weightier so I left that.

All arrived pretty quick from our pals in sunny India. Very well wrapped, so well wrapped that even Hamuman (external link) the nimble-fingered Hindu Monkey Diety would have struggled to get the thing opened.

Anyway, finally all was revealed and I saw that it was good. The order was complete, lots of different sized screws and tools and instructions included, the casting was a tad rough in places but totally acceptable, well built, everything worked, solid QR system, easy/good adjustments for different sized lenses, strong, decent weight but not heavy (0.950 Kg), and the plates where good.

So you screw in the plate to the lens foot nice and secure, slip the plate into the QR, tighten it all up and it is solid as a rock. All the movements are smooth. A significant upgrade over the likes of Manfrotto 488 RC2 if you prefer this kinda approach. Just very easy and fast to use. You balance the lens/camera combo and can almost use fingertip control to move it all around. Ideal for the money-wise buyer. Cost around £90 delivered, including the 2 lens plates. Sweet ...

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Apr 11, 2008 05:27 |  #2

What would be the bigest kit you would use on this 1Dmk2 + 300F2.8?


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Apr 11, 2008 05:36 |  #3

I'm intending using the 300mm 2.8 IS L with a 40D and TCon's. It is strong enough for sure. The advert says up to 600mm.


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Apr 11, 2008 06:58 |  #4

Thanks for the heads up on that, just about to order a 300 f/2.8, and that looks just the ticket for a good mounting soution.


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Apr 11, 2008 07:24 |  #5

The cat seems to approve of it. ;)


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Apr 11, 2008 13:05 |  #6

RTRIDER wrote in post #5306183 (external link)
Thanks for the heads up on that, just about to order a 300 f/2.8, and that looks just the ticket for a good mounting soution.

Be interested in your views if you get one.

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The cat seems to approve of it. ;)

She's just a little poser ;-)a


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Apr 11, 2008 15:03 as a reply to  @ condyk's post |  #7

If you would humor me and take some comparison images using ballhead and using gimbal head.
Am curious about vibration transmission.


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Apr 11, 2008 15:09 |  #8

Nah ... I think you have measurbators disease and refuse to be part of it. Besides, I do not live in an earthquake zone and my neighbours are not currently having energetic sex :-)

But I can tell ya you will see nothing different anyway. Decent tripods and heads are like decent lenses - not that different. Some just like to spend more money.


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Apr 11, 2008 15:16 |  #9

looks like a very good value alternative to the Kirk head. i will still argue that it will not be as good as the real Wimberley due to the side mount but the side mount works great for me with the sidekick anyway so it is not a big deal.




  
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Apr 11, 2008 15:17 |  #10

Yowza, and what a price!
These did not exist a year ago! I definitely would have tried that full Wimberly knock off at less than half the price.
Thanks for the write up.


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Apr 11, 2008 15:17 |  #11

blonde wrote in post #5309067 (external link)
looks like a very good value alternative to the Kirk head. i will still argue that it will not be as good as the real Wimberley due to the side mount but the side mount works great for me with the sidekick anyway so it is not a big deal.

Check link, approx $200.00 for a full Wimberly (V1.0) knock off! :shock:
(including a very long release clamp)


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Apr 11, 2008 15:20 |  #12

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #5309077 (external link)
Yowza, and what a price!

Wuz you that give me the idea in Africa so I hunted around for similar and found it ;)


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Apr 11, 2008 15:23 |  #13

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #5309082 (external link)
Check link, approx $200.00 for a full Wimberly (V1.0) knock off! :shock:
(including a very long release clamp)

that's not bad at all!!!! (i don't see myself replacing the Wimberley with that but it's nice to see that there are cheaper alternatives).




  
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Apr 12, 2008 08:23 |  #14

Blondie that is exactly it ... this is for folks who don't wanna spend big bucks but want the same functionality. I doubt side by side shooting the same gear and the same subject we'd see a difference. There's also a clone tripod mount on the 70-200 IS there ;-)a Much cheaper and does the job fine.


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Apr 12, 2008 13:46 as a reply to  @ condyk's post |  #15

One problem with these gimbal devices is that they don't take well to "smaller" birding lenses like the 300/4L with 1.4x nor the 400/5.6L if they're attached to a 1D or a 5D+grip body, balance-wise - you actually need to slide the foot plates of these lenses beyond the safety pin point to achieve balance on the gimbal and that's scary.


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