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Apr 11, 2008 06:26 |  #1

Ok ... how much closer do you get with a 1.4x TCon? Maybe this quick pair of snaps will illustrate for y'all and help decide if you wanna invest!

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Apr 11, 2008 06:35 |  #2

What lens?



  
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Apr 11, 2008 06:38 |  #3

That's not an optimal example. The average user who needs a TC, gets it for outdoors reach. A x1.4 magnification on an object that is 10ft away from you is not the same as an object that's 200 yards away...


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Apr 11, 2008 06:42 |  #4

aridan wrote in post #5306127 (external link)
That's not an optimal example. The average user who needs a TC, gets it for outdoors reach. A x1.4 magnification on an object that is 10ft away from you is not the same as an object that's 200 yards away...

Why isn't it the same? The same math works for both situations.


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Apr 11, 2008 06:50 |  #5

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What lens?

70-200mm IS L 4.0 and just took the two shots at around 110mm point and shoot style.

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That's not an optimal example. The average user who needs a TC, gets it for outdoors reach. A x1.4 magnification on an object that is 10ft away from you is not the same as an object that's 200 yards away...

Go ahead then ;-)a

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Why isn't it the same? The same math works for both situations.

Exactly ;-)a


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Apr 11, 2008 07:06 |  #6

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Why isn't it the same? The same math works for both situations.

Of course the math is the same. The visual result and the way our brains processes zoomed on distant objects is different however. Let me see if I can dig up a good example...


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Apr 11, 2008 07:17 |  #7

Looks like a good and sufficient example to me. Thanks for posting this condyk.


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Apr 11, 2008 07:24 |  #8

Here is the "best" explanation I found online at this time:

Perspective

The meaning of perspective is difficult to be defined precisely. Because the image of a three-dimensional scene is two-dimensional, perspective is created by the relative size of similar objects (i.e., a distant object looks smaller than a nearby similar object), converging lines, and so on.

Normally, we use telephoto lenses to take images of distant subjects so that the desired portion of the scene is ``extracted'' from its surrounding environment. The distance between two objects looks shorter and hence the scene seems ``compressed'' (i.e., objects look like close to each other). We mentioned this in previous section. On the other hand, wide angle lenses are normally used to take wide area and ``exaggerate'' the nearby objects (i.e., they look like larger than their actual sizes).

The rest is here (along with some visual examples): Optical Zoom (external link)

Scroll down to the 6 wooded area pictures. Clearly, zooming on distant objects are perceived (re: perspective) as being magnified more than on near objects. The math is the same but our perspective is not. ;)

As for the OT: Take your cat out and shoot it again only this time, do it from 100 yards away. :D


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Apr 11, 2008 07:58 |  #9

yeah, the closer you are to the subject, the more powerful your zoom seems.




  
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Apr 11, 2008 09:55 as a reply to  @ ScrewDrvr's post |  #10

Would be interested to see a crop of the original image to the same size as the second, to compare a crop v TC image...if at all possible.

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Apr 11, 2008 11:04 |  #11

condyk wrote in post #5306156 (external link)
70-200mm IS L 4.0 and just took the two shots at around 110mm point and shoot style.

I'd say this is a bad example because you could have just zoomed your lens from 110mm to 154mm for the same effect. The TC should really be used for extending the far range of a telephoto lens.


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Apr 11, 2008 11:08 |  #12

Cyrusian wrote in post #5306989 (external link)
Would be interested to see a crop of the original image to the same size as the second, to compare a crop v TC image...if at all possible.

Don't be lazy ... ya can do that yourself ;-)a

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I'd say this is a bad example because you could have just zoomed your lens from 110mm to 154mm for the same effect. The TC should really be used for extending the far range of a telephoto lens.

:lol::lol: Wow man, thanks for the advice. I gotta remember I can 'zoom' my lenses.


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Apr 11, 2008 12:38 |  #13

In other news, walking forward one step will save you the cost of a Canon tc!


Just kidding :)

I would have given a better example though, try shooting something outdoors at 200mm and then the same object with the tc on.


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Apr 11, 2008 12:39 |  #14

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I would have given a better example though, try shooting something outdoors at 200mm and then the same object with the tc on.

Go on then ;-)a


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Apr 11, 2008 13:03 |  #15

If I had owned a teleconverter myself I would have given a better example...

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