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Tried out the XSi...very nice!

 
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Apr 11, 2008 13:13 |  #1

I managed to get my hands on an XSI (450D)for a few minutes and I must say that the camera is a very impressive little camera. For those who have waited and considered the XSi, the time has come and you should really consider checking this little beast out.

I found the XSi to be a very light camera and a slightly better grip feel compared to the XTi. The first thing that was very noticiable to was the large LCD display...very nice! What I immediately found a huge improvement was the larger viewfinder. On the downside, which slightly bothered me, was the battery door. It is very similar to the 40D where the battery door and the latch is completely plastic (no metal). The XSI uses the new LP-E5 battery and the neck strap is new as well, looks like the 20D-40D strap, but black instead of navy.

As a 40D user, the downside of the XSi(IMO) were: the camera did feel a bit small; being used to the rear wheel and joystick, it was cumbersome (for me) changing camera settings on the fly.

As for IQ, not bad...not bad at all. Sorry for the uncreativeness, but here's a pic and a 100% crop. I took the shots with the EF 50 1.4. At ISO 1600, 1/60 f5.6 and spot metering I was quite impressed. Sorry about the pics being soft, but my primary test was performance at 1600 ISO.


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Apr 11, 2008 13:17 |  #2

So the question is...metaphorically speaking...would you conclude that the XSi is the Champagne of Ginger Ales?


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Apr 11, 2008 13:18 as a reply to  @ bacchanal's post |  #3

FYI:
XSi = 450D
XTi = 400D

EXIF says it was a 450D/XSi


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Apr 11, 2008 13:21 |  #4

ilkhan wrote in post #5308344 (external link)
FYI:
XSi = 450D
XTi = 400D

EXIF says it was a 450D/XSi

oops my bad. Edited...thanks!


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Apr 11, 2008 15:20 |  #5

bacchanal wrote in post #5308339 (external link)
So the question is...metaphorically speaking...would you conclude that the XSi is the Champagne of Ginger Ales?

Because I only took a couple of shots, I wouldn't quickly conclude that the XSI is the Champagne of Ginger Ales, but IMO it looks pretty good at ISO 1600 taken at a JPG setting. What's your opinion with the high ISO?


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Apr 11, 2008 16:03 |  #6

Looks very good for ISO1600.

Should be a great addition to the rebel lineup! Plus it will drive Xti prices down and make that camera an even better deal ;)


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Apr 11, 2008 16:13 |  #7

40d is cheaper than 450d body only over in UK.

40d is £529, and 450d is 599.

AHAHAHAAHAHAH and people still buy the 450d




  
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Apr 11, 2008 17:02 |  #8

rdc640 wrote in post #5309477 (external link)
40d is cheaper than 450d bother body only over in UK.

40d is £529, and 450d is 599.

AHAHAHAAHAHAH and people still buy the 450d

Is that for real?

Yeah, someone will look at the XSi with 12MP vs. 40D's 10MP and assume the XSi is the better camera. [Shakes head]




  
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Apr 11, 2008 17:16 |  #9

ye 100%.
well, due to canon cashback.

£629 -£100
vs £599.

thats from our biggest high street camera shop, jessops.

i can only presume that its the green box crew that are paying more for the 450d than the 40d... ?? :/
ye thats my thinkin too, 12.2 is more than 10.. gotta be better...




  
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Apr 11, 2008 19:06 |  #10

You guys are forgetting the 450D offers things the 40D does not. Size & weight are very important to me for an everyday camera even if that means a sacrifice in other areas.

I for one am looking for a replacement for my 350D (backup body) and am picking between the two. The 40D has a great number of advantages, but I like a smaller body as a break from the 1D's 'presence'.



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Apr 11, 2008 19:38 |  #11

TeeTee wrote in post #5310428 (external link)
You guys are forgetting the 450D offers things the 40D does not. Size & weight are very important to me for an everyday camera even if that means a sacrifice in other areas.

I for one am looking for a replacement for my 350D (backup body) and am picking between the two. The 40D has a great number of advantages, but I like a smaller body as a break from the 1D's 'presence'.

Technically though, the XXD series is above the XXXD Rebel series. Rebel = Consumer Targeted, XXD = Prosumer targeted.

Now dont get all weird on me guys, cause I know IQ, usage, etc. do not necessarily mean that (the Rebels can take just as good of pictures as the XXD series, and many "pros" use rebels and such). But as far as marketing and how they are targeted, that is how it is.


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Apr 11, 2008 20:15 |  #12

Grentz wrote in post #5310580 (external link)
Technically though, the XXD series is above the XXXD Rebel series. Rebel = Consumer Targeted, XXD = Prosumer targeted.

Now dont get all weird on me guys, cause I know IQ, usage, etc. do not necessarily mean that (the Rebels can take just as good of pictures as the XXD series, and many "pros" use rebels and such). But as far as marketing and how they are targeted, that is how it is.

Agreed, the pricing scheme is weird.

However as it is, the 40D seems priced appropriately for once - nice to see a DSLR that is! As such I feel that it's inevitable that I will be going with one as my secondary body. The perks at such a low price premium are unbeatable.

However I will make it a point to handle a 450D before actually making the purchase. My only problem is that the Rebel series is WAY too small to use comfortably with a 70-200 2.8.



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Apr 11, 2008 20:16 |  #13

TeeTee wrote in post #5310428 (external link)
You guys are forgetting the 450D offers things the 40D does not. Size & weight are very important to me for an everyday camera even if that means a sacrifice in other areas.

I for one am looking for a replacement for my 350D (backup body) and am picking between the two. The 40D has a great number of advantages, but I like a smaller body as a break from the 1D's 'presence'.

If low size and weight are the determinants of value then the Rebel line should cost more than the 1-series. :lol:




  
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Apr 11, 2008 20:23 |  #14

gooble wrote in post #5309821 (external link)
Is that for real?

Yeah, someone will look at the XSi with 12MP vs. 40D's 10MP and assume the XSi is the better camera. [Shakes head]


And some may think that because of the wrapper the 40D is better.


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Apr 11, 2008 20:26 |  #15

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And some may think that because of the wrapper the 40D is better.

That's because the 40D is better. I'd take a 40D over a 450D at the same price. If the 40D is actually cheaper then something is really wrong at Canon. The 450D may be the newest of the entry level dSLRs, but the 40D was only released last August.

Sure, the 450D is smaller and lighter. The advantages stop there.


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