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Nov 19, 2004 07:36 |  #1

Does anyone has the experience on this matter.

Will there has dark corners when shooting 14mm fisheye with 1D mark II. ?




  
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Nov 19, 2004 09:20 |  #2

I believe most 14 mm fisheyes would be full-frame even on 35 mm. So it'll fully cover anything smaller. Whose fisheye is this? Canon and Sigma have 15 mm offerings, not 14.


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Nov 20, 2004 02:26 |  #3

Sorry, it is Canon 15mm fisheye.

Which len will you pick Canon or Sigma?




  
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Nov 20, 2004 02:34 |  #4

Judging by your current set-up, I'd go the the Canon version, Sigma just wouldn't cut it for you!


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Nov 20, 2004 03:43 |  #5

there are no dark corners on the 15mm fisheye even on full frame bodies. i have both a sigma 15mm and a zenitar 16mm and they are great on the mkii. here is one example (external link) of the sigma.

the sigma or zenitar 8mm, on the otherhand, will vignette the corners even on a 1.6 crop body...


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Nov 20, 2004 04:23 |  #6

Thanks guys, can anyone post a Canon fisheye shot.

I need a fisheye len to shot some high mountain fog scent.




  
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Nov 20, 2004 07:56 |  #7

HKFEVER wrote:
Does anyone has the experience on this matter.

Will there has dark corners when shooting 14mm fisheye with 1D mark II. ?

There are two kinds of fisheye lenses, full frame and circular. The circular produces a disk on the film/capture like the image circle was to small to cover the format, which is exactly the case. The full frame fisheye just has a bigger image circle.

I wouldn't think that there would be dark corners from the 15, especially on the 1.3 Mark II, but all super wide angles are going to have "darker" corners than the centre. The light is forced to travel farther so there's less of it hitting the corners.

In large format photography you can buy a centre graduated density filter that's semi specific to super wide angle lenses. This blocks some light in the centre and gradually lightens as you get closer to the edge/corners. Your lens loses a stop or more but then it's even from corner to corner.

But you don't have to worry about this. The 15mm fisheye lens is supported by the brilliant and free PTLens program and it will fix this vignetteing problem easily and without the need for a filter.

http://www.epaperpress​.com/ptlens/ (external link)


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Nov 20, 2004 09:15 |  #8

Thank you, will post some picture after the job. :lol:




  
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Nov 20, 2004 10:06 |  #9
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I have some 15mm canon shots but they are all on a 1.6x sensor, not on a 1.3 sensor... I don't think you want them then...


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Nov 20, 2004 22:13 |  #10

Sigma- 370$, Canon-574$
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no "L" problem here
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Nov 20, 2004 22:34 |  #11

You are right "L" is not the issue, I am more concern:
- Over all Sharpness
- AF speed
- Size
- Noise from the AF
- Build quality




  
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Nov 21, 2004 04:31 |  #12

one big thing to remember - since you are letting in more light, the fisheyes tend to overexpose very quickly if you aren't careful

here is another example (external link) as well as a 100% crop (external link). although this isn't the bext example, this lens can be very sharp. build quality and low af noise are roughly on par with the canon equivalent.


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Nov 21, 2004 07:39 |  #13

blackviolet wrote:
one big thing to remember - since you are letting in more light, the fisheyes tend to overexpose very quickly if you aren't careful

here is another example (external link) as well as a 100% crop (external link). although this isn't the bext example, this lens can be very sharp. build quality and low af noise are roughly on par with the canon equivalent.

That's not true.

An f-stop is an f-stop. How does a fisheye at f8 let in any more light that a 100mm lens at f8? and if you change to f5.6 on either lens you let in one more stop, no more no less.


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Nov 21, 2004 09:11 |  #14

Thank you guys, I just went out 3 hrs ago and bought the Canon 15mm fisheye.

Will try it out later today. But its AF is quite noise. :shock:




  
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Nov 21, 2004 13:40 |  #15

DaveG wrote:
That's not true.

An f-stop is an f-stop. How does a fisheye at f8 let in any more light that a 100mm lens at f8? and if you change to f5.6 on either lens you let in one more stop, no more no less.

believe me, i have always thought that as well. i don't know if they average to get to f8 (to accomodate the longer light path of image at the edges) or if they have completely mis-calculated all of the aperture settings on both lenses??! all i know is i have to stop down 1/3 of a stop or more on both of my fisheyes compared to any of my other lenses or it can blow highlights near the centre of the image (and when i tested the canon, i had to do the same).


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