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Apr 13, 2008 06:22 |  #1

I know the G9 has an electronic wind filter setting but it didn't work that great. Does anyone have any suggestions how to eliminate wind on the microphone when filming?

For instance, I was just on a cruise and wanted to film the sound of the water from the back of the ship as we were on route. There was a lot of wind and the G9 picked up more wind than wave sound. Does putting some type of foam over the mic like reporters do on their mics help?

I'd like to hear from anyone that's found a solution. Thanks.


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Apr 14, 2008 19:23 |  #2

I've found the same problem and haven't really looked for a solution yet. For now I've been trying to shield the camera from the wind with my body or my hand depending on the wind direction. The mic is on the top on the camera so doing anything that stops the wind from blowing directly in that area will help.


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Apr 14, 2008 19:28 |  #3

Unfortunately, the pickup pattern on the G9's mic is very wide whereas professional audio uses mics with very, very narrow pickup patterns. They are meant to isolate just the voice of the person using the mic (aka "Shotgun" pattern...)

Adding foam might help a little but there's just no way around the design of the microphone itself.


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Apr 14, 2008 19:37 |  #4

Short of a deadcat it is going to pickup noise.

I have Rode videomic that I use for my video work on my Sony VX2000 and the foam it comes with is pretty much useless during windy days. I have a deadcat for it and that works, but in high wind conditions even that can be defeated.

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Apr 14, 2008 22:27 |  #5

Ya learn something new every day...

20+ years in video production and I've never heard that refered to as a "Dead Cat."


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Apr 15, 2008 03:32 |  #6

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #5330681 (external link)
Ya learn something new every day...
20+ years in video production and I've never heard that refered to as a "Dead Cat."

:) same here :)

Dealing with wind noise is not easy, even using the best equipment available, and it may be cumbersome to use.
Below, a typical microphone with its wind / background noise rejection accessories:

Microphone and Velour foam windshield or
Microphone, Suspension/pistol grip, Basket windshield, Hairy cover (the Dead Cat, I guess) :)


We can not expect the same wind noise reduction on the small mic when several G9s may go inside the basket windshield depicted.

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Take this as a curious note on professional audio recording.

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Apr 15, 2008 22:39 |  #7

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #5330681 (external link)
Ya learn something new every day...

20+ years in video production and I've never heard that referred to as a "Dead Cat."

I guess it goes by many names, wind sock, wind muff, etc.

The name seems to be fitting since it resembles one.

http://www.rodemic.com​/accessory.php?product​=DeadCat (external link)

They also have a deadkiten for their smaller mics http://www.rodemic.com …ry.php?product=​DeadKitten (external link)

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Apr 15, 2008 22:55 |  #8

rpolitsr wrote in post #5331843 (external link)
:) same here :)

Dealing with wind noise is not easy, even using the best equipment available, and it may be cumbersome to use.
Below, a typical microphone with its wind / background noise rejection accessories:

Microphone and Velour foam windshield or
Microphone, Suspension/pistol grip, Basket windshield, Hairy cover (the Dead Cat, I guess) :)

We can not expect the same wind noise reduction on the small mic when several G9s may go inside the basket windshield depicted.

Now the "Basket Windshield" I know except I've always heard these referred to as "Blimps" or "Zeppelins."


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Apr 16, 2008 00:20 |  #9

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #5337967 (external link)
Now the "Basket Windshield" I know except I've always heard these referred to as "Blimps" or "Zeppelins."

You are right. I’m familiar with those names, but as I speak Spanish and live in a country were the main language is Spanish, the names given in the international (English version) of Sennheiser Microphones Catalog are more ‘natural’ names for me.

Alexajlex is also right, several names are given to the same thing in different places. For my crew, the furry cover was ‘el zorro’ (the fox) and the only name for a heavy voltage stabilizer that we used in the small towns with not the best electric power was ‘la piedra’ (the stone).

Returning to the camera’s mic, the Pro1 has it hidden below the built-in flash and does a decent job in light winds. Protecting the G9’s mic from direct wind strike may be of some help I guess.


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Apr 16, 2008 07:27 |  #10

rpolitsr wrote in post #5338429 (external link)
You are right. I’m familiar with those names, but as I speak Spanish and live in a country were the main language is Spanish, the names given in the international (English version) of Sennheiser Microphones Catalog are more ‘natural’ names for me.

Alexajlex is also right, several names are given to the same thing in different places. For my crew, the furry cover was ‘el zorro’ (the fox) and the only name for a heavy voltage stabilizer that we used in the small towns with not the best electric power was ‘la piedra’ (the stone).

Returning to the camera’s mic, the Pro1 has it hidden below the built-in flash and does a decent job in light winds. Protecting the G9’s mic from direct wind strike may be of some help I guess.


Very true.

It is regional.

The maker of the videomic Rode, a well known audio company, is from Australia. I guess that may be the name they use in Australia for this particular item.

I noticed that this term (deadcat) is extremely popular on dvinfo.net (the largest digital video forum in the world).


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Jul 07, 2009 03:34 |  #11

dougsturgess wrote in post #5318400 (external link)
... anyone have any suggestions how to eliminate wind on the microphone when filming? ...

fake fur mic muff - aka, audio tribble.............

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