DoubleNegative *sniffles*  10,533 posts Likes: 11 Joined Mar 2006 Location: New York, USA More info | Apr 15, 2008 12:19 | #16 Yeah, really... "Bottom of the bunch." That may be true, more so on paper than in real life, but you'll never see the difference in your images. They're all fantastic lenses. La Vida Leica!
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Apr 15, 2008 13:38 | #17 I am not trying to imply that the 70-200mm F2.8L IS is not a great lens. It just seems everyone raves about the F4L IS and I know mine is very sharp. It is probably a mental block more than anything. It seems like getting rid of the F4L IS, paying an extra $800 and getting a lens that may be lower in IQ, even if it is on paper, is strange. It is a personal thing. I know if I get the F2.8L, I will want to use it in other applications where I would wish I had gotten the F2.8L IS. Canon EOS 7D with BG-E7 battery grip, EOS 40D with BG-E2 battery grip, Canon 20D, Canon EF 70-200mm F2.8L IS, Canon EF 24-70mm F2.8[COLOR=#ff0000]L, EF 300mm F4L IS, EF 400mm F5.6L, EF-S 17-40mm F4.0L, Canon Speedlite 580EX
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DoubleNegative *sniffles* 10,533 posts Likes: 11 Joined Mar 2006 Location: New York, USA More info | Apr 15, 2008 14:33 | #18 Go for it... f/2.8L IS. You'll never regret having f/2.8 - or IS. La Vida Leica!
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me  34,090 posts Likes: 44 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Apr 15, 2008 14:43 | #19 20D_Newbie wrote in post #5334406  It just seems everyone raves about the F4L IS Justification. Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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Apr 15, 2008 14:44 | #20 cdifoto wrote in post #5334845 Justification. Justification for what? Canon EOS 7D with BG-E7 battery grip, EOS 40D with BG-E2 battery grip, Canon 20D, Canon EF 70-200mm F2.8L IS, Canon EF 24-70mm F2.8[COLOR=#ff0000]L, EF 300mm F4L IS, EF 400mm F5.6L, EF-S 17-40mm F4.0L, Canon Speedlite 580EX
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shutterfiend Goldmember 2,058 posts Joined Feb 2007 Location: NJ More info | Apr 15, 2008 14:47 | #21 gasrocks wrote in post #5333476 How about getting a 135/2 and a 1.4x which you can use on other lenses? +1 https://photography-on-the.net …p=7812587&postcount=91776
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me 34,090 posts Likes: 44 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Apr 15, 2008 14:47 | #22 20D_Newbie wrote in post #5334852 Justification for what? Going with a cheaper & slower f/4. Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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bobbyz Cream of the Crop 20,506 posts Likes: 3479 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA More info | Apr 15, 2008 14:53 | #23 Even in good light, lot of times the bg is bad and you need to blur at by shooting at f2.8 which a f4 lens can't do. IS or no IS depends on what else you shoot. Should be a non issue for sports. Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
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Doublea17 Senior Member 420 posts Likes: 3 Joined Mar 2008 Location: Oregon More info | Apr 15, 2008 14:57 | #24 Get the f/2.8 IS I had f/4 traded it back for 2.8 IS and glad I did. I'm a novice photog but someday when i get better I'm glad i have a lens that can do what i want and not hoping it can get it done, same with with my camera was going to get XSI glad I got 40D. ____________
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Apr 15, 2008 15:07 | #25 Crap!!! Decisions, decisions. If I get the 70-200mm F2.8L IS, I would get 280mm F4 with IS using my 1.4X TC. This would kind of make the 300mm F4L IS redundant, except when I use it with my 1.4X TC. Canon EOS 7D with BG-E7 battery grip, EOS 40D with BG-E2 battery grip, Canon 20D, Canon EF 70-200mm F2.8L IS, Canon EF 24-70mm F2.8[COLOR=#ff0000]L, EF 300mm F4L IS, EF 400mm F5.6L, EF-S 17-40mm F4.0L, Canon Speedlite 580EX
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bobbyz Cream of the Crop 20,506 posts Likes: 3479 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA More info | Apr 15, 2008 15:15 | #26 1.4xTC on 70-200mm f2.8 IS is not that good from what I have seen. I haven't had a chance to try it myself. Will do it over the weekend. Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
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Apr 15, 2008 15:16 | #27 Hmmm... it is pretty good on 70-200mm F4L IS and 70-200mm F4L non-IS lenses. Canon EOS 7D with BG-E7 battery grip, EOS 40D with BG-E2 battery grip, Canon 20D, Canon EF 70-200mm F2.8L IS, Canon EF 24-70mm F2.8[COLOR=#ff0000]L, EF 300mm F4L IS, EF 400mm F5.6L, EF-S 17-40mm F4.0L, Canon Speedlite 580EX
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bobbyz Cream of the Crop 20,506 posts Likes: 3479 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA More info | Apr 15, 2008 15:21 | #28 See everyone has their definition of good. Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
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DoubleNegative *sniffles* 10,533 posts Likes: 11 Joined Mar 2006 Location: New York, USA More info | Apr 15, 2008 15:27 | #29 I've used both the 1.4x and 2x on my 70-200mm f/2.8L IS... I've been perfectly happy with the results from both, though obviously the 2x is a little lower quality. I didn't notice any obvious degradation from the 1.4x. La Vida Leica!
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Apr 16, 2008 14:36 | #30 Well, I placed my order. I ordered from buydig.com because they were slightly cheaper than B&H (plus free shipping) and B&H was out of the 300mm. I ordered Canon EOS 7D with BG-E7 battery grip, EOS 40D with BG-E2 battery grip, Canon 20D, Canon EF 70-200mm F2.8L IS, Canon EF 24-70mm F2.8[COLOR=#ff0000]L, EF 300mm F4L IS, EF 400mm F5.6L, EF-S 17-40mm F4.0L, Canon Speedlite 580EX
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