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Apr 21, 2008 19:45 |  #16

GVal wrote in post #5376880 (external link)
jcolman: Have you tried mounting the rig towards the rear of the car for longer exposures? Cutting down on the engine vibration may help. Finding a smooth road couldn't hurt either.

I haven't had time to do much of anything but the shots you see. I just finished the rig yesterday. You're right in that I need to find a smooth section of road and turn the engine off. These were simply test shots in front of my house to see how much vibration I was getting.


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Apr 22, 2008 03:51 |  #17

I always have the engine off!

Using a suction cup and tripod arrangement, I got these...

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I personally think that 1-2 seconds is best as it gives the car some context. Anything over 4 seconds and the background is just too blurred for my taste

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Apr 22, 2008 05:41 |  #18

I'm wanting to to this, the extension pole zip tied to a set of suction cups seems pretty simple to me, how much do these suction cups go for? What's a good brand?


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Apr 22, 2008 07:16 |  #19

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I'm wanting to to this, the extension pole zip tied to a set of suction cups seems pretty simple to me, how much do these suction cups go for? What's a good brand?

Here ya go:

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Apr 22, 2008 08:48 |  #20

Uk guys
Im looking at building a rig very similar to the automotiverigs one but with a few tweaks for cost effectiveness and safty.
If any one is interested I can probably nock you one out too for a reasonable price
Just thought I'd offer


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Apr 22, 2008 09:06 |  #21

Zilly wrote in post #5379986 (external link)
Uk guys
Im looking at building a rig very similar to the automotiverigs one but with a few tweaks for cost effectiveness and safty.
If any one is interested I can probably nock you one out too for a reasonable price
Just thought I'd offer


I'm into mine for about $46. Check the pics for everything you need to know.

And let me answer two questions I get alot of;
1. I'm going about 1mpg to achieve these shots.
2. The magnets aren't strong enough by themselves, I use clamps to secure to the underside of the car.


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Here is my rig. I bought the 3 magnets off Ebay for about $20. They kinda hold, kinda not. Not really the magnet's fault, just no really nice flat metal place to attach them on modern cars these days. So you need to get creative. I've heard that even the rigs you can buy suffer the same issue. So I use the clamps you see in the pics to help keep everything nice and snug under there.
I got everything else at the Home Depot for another $25 or so. Just some 1 1/4" emt pipe for tubing and some strut to attach the magnets. The emt pipe is kinda heavy, aluminum tubing would be better, but not as readily available.

Ok guys, hope these pics help you all get started on your own rigs. I never understood why someone who posts on this board would choose not to share their rigs design, but I know most people don't seem to.

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One last thing. I used a manfrotto pistol grip and I kept it attached to my tripod's mounting post and slid it all into the pipe as one unit. Otherwise you could buy a superclamp and just clamp it to the pipe. Probably the easiest way to attach your camera to the rig.
Just a suggestion.


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Apr 22, 2008 09:07 |  #22

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Apr 22, 2008 09:18 |  #23

Good stuff Skippy,

Quick question: How long are your poles?


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Apr 22, 2008 09:22 |  #24

Skippy29 wrote in post #5380067 (external link)
I'm into mine for about $46. Check the pics for everything you need to know.

And let me answer two questions I get alot of;
1. I'm going about 1mpg to achieve these shots.
2. The magnets aren't strong enough by themselves, I use clamps to secure to the underside of the car.

Im working with 8000 ish bhp drag cars so they'll be towed, also rolling on state of the art drag tracks so the roll with be nice and smooth

I dont use magnets super clamps and vacume hand mounts.

I only have a small car so Im building it in 4ft long sections to fit in, also it alows loads of manipulation with how far away the camera is from the body to start with im building 12ft's worth of tubes then going from there
Not a fan of the original automotiverigs style mount if the wire slips the boom will hit the floor so Mines got a safety stop in it. Due to working with a 1dmkiin and heavy glass Im using 2 inch ali tube to stop flex


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Apr 22, 2008 09:33 |  #25

Skippy, you go with your kindorf and EMT. I am an electrical contractor, and these things are easy to come by. You just beat me to posting it. :) Nice job, I'll be following your lead.


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Apr 22, 2008 10:32 |  #26

I started building my rig mk2 today. Going with the over the top cantilevered design. It's pretty simple and uses aluminium tube that I got from a local aerial fitter for masts.

It's just about built, but I need to fit some sort of guide for the tension cable at the upright. I also need to shorten the tension cable as I made it about 8 inches too long.

My rig is about 8' long, and already has more flex in it than I'd like, but I've got a few ideas on how to sort that. My widest lens is 18mm, so I think I'm gonna have to get me something wider as I can only just about get the whole car in.


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Apr 22, 2008 10:49 |  #27

I like the rigs that mount under the car. The cantilevered ones requiretoo much PP for my tastes. I'd rather have the photo untouched, than having to blur everything to cover up the mini golden gate replica i set up on my car.


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Apr 22, 2008 11:08 |  #28

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I like the rigs that mount under the car. The cantilevered ones requiretoo much PP for my tastes. I'd rather have the photo untouched, than having to blur everything to cover up the mini golden gate replica i set up on my car.

Here's a quick non-moving test to show how much of my rig will be in shot....

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Ok so I'm going to need a wider lens, but even so, there still won't be much PP work.

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Apr 22, 2008 11:37 |  #29

The only thing that freaks me out with an off-body setups (suction cups) is the possibility of that thing losing grip and coming down smashing on the car. Thinking of a metal rod hitting the paint is plain terrifying :shock:

IMO, with under body setups, less PP is involved and no risk to the paint of the car.


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Apr 22, 2008 11:38 |  #30

Jay McLaughlin wrote in post #5380833 (external link)
Ok so I'm going to need a wider lens, but even so, there still won't be much PP work.

Once you mount an UWA you can pretty much count on more PP work... :D


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