garret, Like this ,...nice work, also saw your set on the transport protraits forum....great work..
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Ando27 Goldmember  1,218 posts Joined Jan 2012 Location: New South Wales Australia More info | Oct 24, 2012 21:01 | #8236 garret, Like this ,...nice work, also saw your set on the transport protraits forum....great work.. Ando.
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CraigPatterson Senior Member 287 posts Joined Jul 2012 Location: Colorado More info | Oct 24, 2012 21:48 | #8237 StE823 wrote in post #15165717  haters... lol Do you have some samples of your work in VRPro that would discount the previous comments? I have a ton of gear, but my gear is just a hammer.
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StE823 Senior Member 430 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2008 Location: Toronto More info | Oct 24, 2012 21:51 | #8238 CraigPatterson wrote in post #15165909 Do you have some samples of your work in VRPro that would discount the previous comments? not sure what you mean.
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paintballkidz Senior Member 757 posts Likes: 4 Joined Jan 2010 Location: VANCOUVRE BC More info | Oct 25, 2012 01:41 | #8239 I have a like new 20' rigpro setup if anyone is looking to buy, I've lost interest pm me. 6D
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GFWilliams Member  190 posts Joined Jan 2009 More info | Oct 25, 2012 01:53 | #8240 About VR - it's great when you're in a situation where you can't bring your rig or want to shoot very quickly at a location, say when you're doing a job abroad and are flying there. But I prefer using my rig, spent all day yesterday taking shots and the rig shots were by far the best bit of it. Going to see how many different angle rig shots I can do today.... GFWilliams Automotive Photography
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CraigPatterson Senior Member 287 posts Joined Jul 2012 Location: Colorado More info | Oct 25, 2012 07:18 | #8241 StE823 wrote in post #15165920 not sure what you mean. Since you were so dismissive of VisualEchos's negative comments about the software, I assumed you had a different experience with it. If you do not have that experience, then my mistake. I have a ton of gear, but my gear is just a hammer.
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VisualEchos Goldmember  More info | Oct 25, 2012 07:32 | #8242 CraigPatterson wrote in post #15165909 Do you have some samples of your work in VRPro that would discount the previous comments? Stephen is pretty much a master at VRS, and will be the first to tell you my comments are true if he will be serious.
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Koppy179 Member 65 posts Likes: 1 Joined May 2010 More info | Hey, this is my last RIG-shot...what do you think?!  Ford Mustang V8 RIG von koppy179 auf Flickr[URL="http://facebook.com/alexanderkopprigshots/"]Facebook Alexander Kopp RIG-ShotsFlickr
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apixelintime Goldmember  2,123 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2008 Location: Dee Eff Dubb! (N. Texas) More info | Oct 25, 2012 08:41 | #8244 VisualEchos wrote in post #15165549 Basically, it's not all it's cracked up to be. To get the wheels right, you must jack the front of the car up, spin the wheel, and do an exposure, and the same for the rear. Then you have to shoot the background plate, and when you add the car, add the shadow and make it look correct. Beyond that, it simply doesn't make much sense, and here's why. VRS is really great for those shots that AREN'T possible with a real rig, problem is, when you do those shots, the physics NEVER works (for those that look even half close), so it simply doesn't work. For normal people, sure they will oooh and ahhh all over it, but for photographer's, it's just not all there yet. Give it a few years... So basically, if you know what you are doing, this is all doable in photoshop... Christopher Cross | Apixelintime.com | Nightographer.com (coming soon)
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StE823 Senior Member 430 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2008 Location: Toronto More info | Oct 25, 2012 08:46 | #8245 apixelintime wrote in post #15167330 So basically, if you know what you are doing, this is all doable in photoshop... not.. entirely true, you can't "really" spin the wheels with the brake visible in photoshop.
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StE823 Senior Member 430 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2008 Location: Toronto More info | Oct 25, 2012 08:52 | #8246 CraigPatterson wrote in post #15167093 Since you were so dismissive of VisualEchos's negative comments about the software, I assumed you had a different experience with it. If you do not have that experience, then my mistake. I don't use VRpro. But I use another software called Bleex - www.getbleex.com    And yes I rig-pro as well.  
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CraigPatterson Senior Member 287 posts Joined Jul 2012 Location: Colorado More info | Oct 25, 2012 09:39 | #8247 StE823 wrote in post #15167373 I don't use VRpro. But I use another software called Bleex - www.getbleex.com Those are very nice - thank you for sharing. The blur from Bleex seems to have a distinct quality to it, which looks smoother and softer to my eyes than real blur. More like what my brain thinks real blur should look like. It's also cheaper than VRPro, so that's great. But I'm not on Mac, so my loss in this instance. I have a ton of gear, but my gear is just a hammer.
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apixelintime Goldmember 2,123 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2008 Location: Dee Eff Dubb! (N. Texas) More info | Oct 25, 2012 09:48 | #8248 StE823 wrote in post #15167345 not.. entirely true, you can't "really" spin the wheels with the brake visible in photoshop. If what I read from Mr. Echos is correct, you have to jack up the car, spin the wheels and take the photo. So basically it is all layers and with this there would be no difference. I an not being argumentative - I know nothing at all about the software - but it would seem to me that if this is the case, the brake would be visible... Christopher Cross | Apixelintime.com | Nightographer.com (coming soon)
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StE823 Senior Member 430 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2008 Location: Toronto More info | Oct 25, 2012 09:59 | #8249 apixelintime wrote in post #15167633 If what I read from Mr. Echos is correct, you have to jack up the car, spin the wheels and take the photo. So basically it is all layers and with this there would be no difference. I an not being argumentative - I know nothing at all about the software - but it would seem to me that if this is the case, the brake would be visible... I would love to see some examples of a VRS image... check two post above... which is still similar to vrs
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apixelintime Goldmember 2,123 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2008 Location: Dee Eff Dubb! (N. Texas) More info | Oct 25, 2012 10:02 | #8250 Yeah - that reading stuff is hard... lol... Christopher Cross | Apixelintime.com | Nightographer.com (coming soon)
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