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Apr 30, 2008 23:33 |  #16

I tried again to resize to post here. I ended up with 3 different versions. If you dont like any of them, thats ok, I was just trying some things out.


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Apr 30, 2008 23:34 |  #17

Here is the third.......


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Apr 30, 2008 23:37 |  #18

Flo wrote in post #5407932 (external link)
To me I see two seperate photos here.the old rusty vehicle and the grasses.and then the sheds etc?

First thought I had, also.


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Apr 30, 2008 23:44 |  #19

As far as mechanics, I like the picture a lot, but as others have said I would like to see another angle minus the truck bed. Also for some reason I keep wanting to know what is to the right further, I want to see it in a widescreen aspect. Maybe if there is more field and grass off to the right you could place the tree trunk and shed in the left third of the frame. Now that I look at it again though, I kinda like the truck bed there too. Maybe just play around with the angles a little.


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May 01, 2008 00:46 |  #20

Thanks all for the continued critique and comments.

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... Also for some reason I keep wanting to know what is to the right further, I want to see it in a widescreen aspect. Maybe if there is more field and grass off to the right you could place the tree trunk and shed in the left third of the frame...

I'll see if I can drop by and take some wide angle establishing shots of the lot.


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... Now that I look at it again though, I kinda like the truck bed there too. Maybe just play around with the angles a little...

I think it could be incorporated as an additional "element of interest" and perhaps add some depth to the image if it can be kept from becoming a distraction. That's why I wondered earlier if the rusty truck bed could be desaturated a bit in post to blend better with the more muted appearance of the shed. I may be able to do this with different natural lighting, weather cooperating.

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May 01, 2008 10:21 |  #21

Mr Right Cranium Imaging: I like all 3 arty edits (especially the last two, but I'm a gloomy kind of guy). All very tastefully done, and seem to minimise the distraction of those few niggling compositional issues long discussed. These kind of edits have been around for a long, long time, but you've used them well. Gives us an idea what to expect if the work is sent to one of these print-on-canvas services.

Some thought-provoking crops from MidniteJam too.

Mark: selective desaturation is very easy to do in many software packages. Have you tried it? Could use the Gimp - free for Windows/Mac/Linux - if you're stuck for software. Cheers, Tony


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May 02, 2008 00:03 |  #22

tonydee wrote in post #5440284 (external link)
...selective desaturation is very easy to do in many software packages. Have you tried it? Could use the Gimp - free for Windows/Mac/Linux - if you're stuck for software...

Sweet. I just purchased PS Elements 6 and will be diving into it soon. Thanks Tony.

Cranium - I swung by the lot this morning. Here's a few shots showing the surrounding lay of the land to satisfy your curiosity:

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May 02, 2008 13:07 |  #23

I think the composition of the original shot is perfect. I don't think it's too distracting having the two objects.

My only suggestion: The grass does seem to bet a little high. I'd like to see you on a step stool, back of a pickup or something to give you some height above the grass.


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May 04, 2008 01:37 |  #24

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My only suggestion: The grass does seem to bet a little high. I'd like to see you on a step stool, back of a pickup or something to give you some height above the grass.

cowboylife: Thanks for the comments. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get a higher perspective since more height revealed part of the gravel road just in front of the shed (see photos in previous post) and it was somewhat distracting. Guess I'll have to go with the grass...

All: I tried re-editing the original using a number of suggestions. The first is the original posted photo. The second is my first attempt at using PS Elements, my first "real" editing software. Commentary on what I changed precedes the newly edited photo.

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Re-edited photo below.
I made these (somewhat subtle) changes:

> selectively brightened and sharpened the shed & the tree trunk
> selectively darkened the bright sky-spots shining through the tree branches as well as the shed to the left to lessen distraction.
> desaturated the trailer and darkened some hot spots on it to help the trailer blend better with the rest of the photo.
> less global sharpening & more natural green color hue?
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For better or for worse on this one?

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May 04, 2008 03:06 |  #25

The original has most of an "antique" feel to me. I like your edit, but I think the original is still my fav.


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May 04, 2008 12:56 |  #26

cowboylife wrote in post #5456873 (external link)
The original has most of an "antique" feel to me. I like your edit, but I think the original is still my fav.

Ha! I was just comparing the two (after a good night's sleep) & I'm not convinced that I like the edit any better either. There are elements of both that I would've liked to combine, but couldn't quite recreate in my edit (although its exciting to see how much more flexibility I have in editing now with the new software - before it was just ... global brightness, contrast & sharpening). Thanks again.

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May 04, 2008 21:19 as a reply to  @ ImageMogul's post |  #27

I also like the original.


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May 04, 2008 21:50 |  #28

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I also like the original.

"sigh...." I think you're right ... worth trying but ultimately doesn't really work for me either as I scroll back & forth between them. I think some things could be improved - but I'll have to get some more PP time under my belt. Thanks for the comment, Bill. Its what I need.

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May 05, 2008 00:29 |  #29

I have to add that I like the original, also. Composition-wise, I see no need to separate it into two images. When separate they're incomplete and kind of stale and cliché and, well... formulaic. As one image, even though some 'rules' are broken, a story is told.

PP, I also like the original better, though the updated/sharpened version is nice, too. It's probably simplistic on my part, but the greens 'pop' better in the original.


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May 05, 2008 10:55 |  #30

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...the greens 'pop' better in the original.

Thats what gets me too, photoguy - I find the green hue much more pleasing in the first. I tried to duplicate that in the edit and I couldn't quite get it.:rolleyes:

Thank you all so much for your C&C. The feedback has been very beneficial.

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