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40D, if you were Canon, where would you go next?

 
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Apr 29, 2008 16:59 |  #1

The 40D clearly seems to be a winner. I say this with love for my 1DIIn and 5D.

There are tons of nit picking threads about the 40D(pretty useless as near as I can tell) and 40D polls that, positive or negative about the 40D, only seem to re-inforce that the 40D is one of the best cameras Canon has come out with in recent years.

So basically, we have a $1,000(+ or - a few $$$) camera....at a price point that many will buy into.

Where do we go from here? What do we get in the future for 1K $$$ that would make folks jump on the band wagon like they did for the 40D.

Bear in mind, today I can get two 40D's+ for my 1DIIn that is second generation behind a 1DMKIII(which I plan to buy someday when I have the $$$).

O.K. What do the rest of you think?

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Apr 29, 2008 17:08 |  #2

Improved AF and ISO performance toss that in with lens micro adjustment and a higher res LCD and i will gladly pay up to 1400-1700 for it :-).



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Apr 29, 2008 17:26 |  #3

So this is the 50D thread?

My number one feature is the Front/backfocus per lens. This one almost made me go out and get the MkIII or a D300. I am so tired of sending my stuff to Canon for adjustment.


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Apr 29, 2008 17:54 |  #4

The way the main competition is (Noink), the AF (possibly) and the lens micro adjustment could be firmware updates. I find my 40D doesn't focus quite as well as my 20D with some of my lenses - that could be my perception though, the pixel density is higher so a 1:1 pixel peek is going to show things to be just a bit "softer", and at least the micro adjustment could address/verify this and put me at ease - and the imperfections of some lenses may be more apparent with even the slight increase in pixels.

I think we're dreaming though - it's a great camera that I believe will start to be sold brand new at sub $1000 where it will continue to stomp on people. However, Canon seriously needs to innovate here - I love them but when I start drooling over Nikon's line-up, something is amiss.


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Apr 29, 2008 18:23 |  #5
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FF sensor with fast f/ps and high ISO real ability.

But.. then we are talking about 5D MKII, not 40D

Personally, I think 40D is on the end of the road. Because of small sensor, picture quality will always be limited factor. The "number of lines" lens can produce are limited, and smaller sensor, fewer lines per. pixel on sensor, ergo: not sharp image in such a condition as with poor lens or bad light!

Also, because of small sensor, noise is high in poor light, so the only way to reduce ISO is through cpu process, and that process will always also hurt sharpness!


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Apr 29, 2008 20:05 as a reply to  @ garrinn's post |  #6

I don't think small sensors are at the end of the road but just perhaps limited by technology as we currently know it. However, I would assume that more effort is being put into FF technology so perhaps they are at their peak as far as performance....

Digital slrs are so good these days... and aside from improved image quality overall....The one thing that gets me excited is improved noise handling at high iso's... If we ever get to the point where we can get flawless image quality at crazy super high iso's it really could change photography as we currently know it.... so yeah my vote in any camera is always for improved high iso performance...fps, better auto focus etc. is sufficient for me....




  
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Apr 29, 2008 21:29 |  #7

dmstraton wrote in post #5429615 (external link)
The way the main competition is (Noink), the AF (possibly) and the lens micro adjustment could be firmware updates. I find my 40D doesn't focus quite as well as my 20D with some of my lenses - that could be my perception though, the pixel density is higher so a 1:1 pixel peek is going to show things to be just a bit "softer", and at least the micro adjustment could address/verify this and put me at ease - and the imperfections of some lenses may be more apparent with even the slight increase in pixels.....

Mine is out and out front focusing. I can fine the area in focus and even pixel peeping the edges are razor sharp, It's just not razor sharp on target.


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Apr 29, 2008 23:50 |  #8

how about a camera that doesn't goto canon service 1 week after owning it. :) The af with some lenses would be a nice fix so it af's like my xt does. Other then that there really isn't anything more or better I think i'de want.


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Apr 30, 2008 09:22 as a reply to  @ 2005GLI's post |  #9

I think the next xxD will still be a 1.6x crop body.

Definitely higher resolution LCD.
Further AF improvements.
Further VF improvements.
Faster fps.
More MP.
Improved ISO noise handling.
More weather sealing.
AF Micro Adjustment.

Features-wise, I think they've got things set already. They'll need to keep up with the competition for sure, however I would much rather see improvements in the IQ/Noise department since we already have the bells and whistles with the 40D.




  
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Apr 30, 2008 14:16 |  #10

I like that nikon compares the d300 to the 40d. I'm not sure on the price but it's roughly twice the price isn't it?...


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Apr 30, 2008 14:44 |  #11

vpnd wrote in post #5435454 (external link)
I like that nikon compares the d300 to the 40d. I'm not sure on the price but it's roughly twice the price isn't it?...

It compares pretty well and you get quite a bit for the extra $600, much more than the $600 difference between the XTi and 40D. I’m not a Nikon fan, but I can appreciate a nice machine when I hold one.


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May 05, 2008 16:41 |  #12

wireless flah drive via camera, wheather sealing (reel one), a more pro AF, a 100% coverage viewfinder. Those are just to start at the same level as other company.


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May 06, 2008 09:00 as a reply to  @ avan's post |  #13

It would be nice to have them move closer and closer to what the human eye sees....this means better low light (high ISO performance) and increased dynamic range (higher bit)

Bells and whistles that would be great:
-Audio recorder
-In body GPS
-Video or...60 fps for up to 3 hours is you are opposed to video
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I never read these threads as I am interested in a 5DmkII, not a 50D. It is bad to see people at this extremely profitable level (XXD) also drooling over Nikon.


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May 06, 2008 20:04 |  #14

Bollan wrote in post #5429330 (external link)
Improved AF and ISO performance toss that in with lens micro adjustment and a higher res LCD and i will gladly pay up to 1400-1700 for it :-).

I kind-of lean that way myself. I'm not unhappy with either, but there is definately a need for more latitude at 400 and up. The AF is very good, but tracking birds is quite difficult - the 5D does better at that task. The addition of "assist" AF points would be helpful.

The LCD isn't an issue for me, but others see it as significant.


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May 06, 2008 23:21 |  #15

•AF Microadjustment
•640x480 LCD (3" is huge, no bigger!)
•Faster AF, maybe some 1-series perks?
•More weathersealing to compete with Pentax
•Maybe a few more MP, not critical
•HDMI out?
•Improved sensor cleaning
•Improved Live View


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