grimey121uk wrote in post #5432211
Im not sure if this is the correct place to post this (feel free to move it moderators if needed)
I want to try and have a go at taking pictures at a premiership football game, not for money or profesional reasons but just as a hobby. Ive emailed my local football team Bolton an am still waiting for a respose.
Well, you may wait a while for that. Bolton being in the Premiership will definitely hold you back...I'm a West Ham fan, but for the 2 years of shooting sports have NEVER got to go to Upton Park for a game.
my main qustions are.
1.what kind of criteria do me and my camera equiptment have to meet for them to consider me.
Gear wise, there is no criteria set out by the FA/Football League/Premier League. You can turn up with a Powershot if you like. You can see what i'm using, and that has served me well up until now.
For you, well as has been mentioned, this is where you will hit difficulty. For the Premiership, you need: 30 images of "League football", so football league stuff or premiership, published and paid for (and you need to prove it, so keep the cuttings and invoices) PLUS you'll need at least £5 million of Public Liability Insurance (many pro insurance policies will have this as an option).
For the Football Leagues you need: 15 images of Football (conference or football league) published and paid for, and at least £2 million of Public Liability Insurance.
For the Football Conference (BlueSq Prem, North and South), you only need the Insurance (I think thats what it was when I got my option to renew) at £2 million.
These are the restrictions on you. If you manage to get a Football League/Premier League licence, you will also (from this season...officially at least) need recognised professional ID, in the form of a UK Press Card (from one of the gatekeeper organisations such as the BPPA/NUJ/BAJ) which you will have to meet the various membership requirements and further requirements for UK Press Card approval in order to get. Or you can have a DataCo (licensing company) card made for you (which are like gold dust) or you can try and use something like the AIPS card.
2.is there some kind of application proccess to go through.
See above...the application is notoriously selective, and with the advent of the recognised press ID, it now means that a lot of guys who were doing it for fun at weekends and selling to the nationals for pennies will no longer be given a licence. So for those of us in already, and who are doing it pro/full-time, it's good.
3. what kind of cost are invlovled.
Well, whatever it costs you to get to a game/photograph it and get back home. Petrol costs/parking costs are well, you can imagine. Insurance runs to about £200 per year to get all the things you need (and for goodness sake, GET IT!!!)
I would suggest a long (300mm +) lens with a good aperture (4.0 or better) is vital, plus a 70-200 and 2 bodies is a good start so that's a fairly hefty slab of money too.
4 do they only allow profesionals
See answer 2, yeah, you will now have to meet NUJ/BAJ/BPPA criteria for FULL membership (ie. earning the majority of your income through photography) before you'll get a UK Press Card to get into the ground.
Although i only have a 40d i would have thought that it would be fast enougth for the action if i shoot wide open and at high iso even with my slow 100-400 assuming the match is during the day
Well, the 40D is good, the 100-400 is good, but it may lack a bit of bokeh for the shots, but yeah, it'll do for daytime.
My advice would be to go and do a few non-league games (Northern Premier League/Unibond League would be good to start) and get a feel for what the camera/you can do for football. Then apply for a conference licence and try to get out there and selling...speak to local papers and see if they're interested (even £5.00 will suffice as an invoice, just always ALWAYS ensure that you do NOT give a paper ALL RIGHTS!!! as they'll own copyright and your photo will be worthless (both as a future earner, and for your licence application)).
Work your way up from there and see how far you get. It will make the whole thing all the more sweet when you DO step out on the pitch at the Reebok Stadium in front of 30,000 to photograph the premiership, as if you get there...you WILL have earned it.