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Depth of Field Problem Cannon A720 IS

 
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May 02, 2008 04:10 |  #1

I have a Cannon A720 IS

Please cld some one advise how I can take pics so that I get a blurry depth of field ..

I ve been putting the aperture on 2.8 but still everything appears to be in focus – its like Its really disappointing . I want to take pics so that I have the subject in focus but everything behind is blurred …

Please HELP ….

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May 02, 2008 07:57 |  #2

That's, unfortunately, not something any of the PowerShot line is good at, or even really meant for. Depth of field isn't just a question of "use the biggest aperture". You also need to use longer focal length lenses and get as much separation between your subject and the background as possible. And even at telephoto, your A720's lens is about the same focal length as the wide end of a kit lens on an EOS 400D.

Play with the numbers in this Online Depth of Field Calculator (external link); you'll get more idea of what does and doesn't work.


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May 02, 2008 08:07 |  #3

Doesn't the small sensor size also affect how much dof you can get on a point and shoot?




  
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May 02, 2008 08:32 |  #4

sadatk wrote in post #5446214 (external link)
Doesn't the small sensor size also affect how much dof you can get on a point and shoot?

Oh yes!!

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May 04, 2008 17:05 |  #5

Isn't there a way to use the Macro mode to get a better separation between the subject and the background? I read somewhere that the Macro mode can be used to take 'regular' photos. Is that true and, if yes, how do you do that?




  
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May 04, 2008 19:23 |  #6

Macro mode enables you to focus closer. That closer focus means a shallower DoF, but I can't think (mind you, for macro I use a 90 mm Tamron on my DSLR) how you could use macro mode to focus at normal (3 ft. or greater) subject distances.


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May 04, 2008 19:32 |  #7

I don't know either, but I recall reading somewhere that using Macro at more than 3fr can actually be used. don't remember where though...




  
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May 04, 2008 22:28 |  #8

djpj wrote in post #5445549 (external link)

I have a Cannon A720 IS

Please cld some one advise how I can take pics so that I get a blurry depth of field ..

I ve been putting the aperture on 2.8 but still everything appears to be in focus – its like Its really disappointing . I want to take pics so that I have the subject in focus but everything behind is blurred …

Please HELP ….

Thankyou
:)

djpj..
I was wondering that myself..i have the same camera, let me know if you figure it out~ ;-)a




  
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May 05, 2008 12:50 |  #9

suesue wrote in post #5461614 (external link)
djpj..
I was wondering that myself..i have the same camera, let me know if you figure it out~ ;-)a

You won't find what you're after in a point & shoot or bridge camera. Small sensors create huge depth of field. Setting a compact camera at f/2.8 is like setting a DSLR to about f'/11 according to Bryan Peterson in Understanding Exposure. To get shallow dof, you need a DSLR.




  
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May 05, 2008 12:52 |  #10

mamadu.bwana wrote in post #5460555 (external link)
I don't know either, but I recall reading somewhere that using Macro at more than 3fr can actually be used. don't remember where though...

You can get shallow depth of field (good blur) with the Macro setting, but you can only photograph small items up close.




  
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May 05, 2008 21:10 |  #11

audiobomber wrote in post #5464838 (external link)
You can get shallow depth of field (good blur) with the Macro setting, but you can only photograph small items up close.

yep,
By Macro, it allow you to focus closer to subject = smaller DoF. it does not mean say 1 metre to subject you get some blur then by enable macro with same 1 metre distance you get more blur.
what affect DoF are:
1. Aperture
2. Focal length
3. Distance to object
4. Sensor size.
with P&S' tiny sensor size.. you naturally get large DoF..


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May 06, 2008 13:22 |  #12

ae86trueno wrote in post #5467865 (external link)
4. Sensor size.
with P&S' tiny sensor size.. you naturally get large DoF..

It really puts in perspective when you compare the sensor sizes side by side:

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May 06, 2008 17:30 |  #13

Well, here's a post from a new member showing an example of how you can get it.


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May 06, 2008 22:20 |  #14

an example of shallow DOF...

http://img366.imagesha​ck.us/img366/6414/img0​372xt2.jpg (external link)




  
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May 08, 2008 09:43 as a reply to  @ suesue's post |  #15

Using macro mode at 720 IS

at F/2.8 (Less Detailed Background)

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