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May 10, 2008 19:21 |  #1

I'm struggling to work out if this 'works' - any feedback would be well received


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May 10, 2008 19:27 |  #2

Would be a nice shot without the boats and less dense on the smoke.


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May 10, 2008 19:46 as a reply to  @ chauncey's post |  #3

I find it too flat for my tastes. It could stand a fair bit of post processing to bring up the contrast along the midtones and shadows. Tone down the highlights as best you can.


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May 10, 2008 20:42 |  #4

I think I would have preferred a lower perspective. Lower and horizontal to the surface of the water.


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May 10, 2008 22:55 as a reply to  @ photoguy6405's post |  #5

Nice title, CB! Would you mind if I do an experimental crop on your photo?

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May 10, 2008 23:02 |  #6

I like the boats and the idea but would like to see the steam from the water be more evident as I know this must have looked much more pronounced when actually there than what the photo shows.

I'm sure some post processing can bring that out.




  
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May 10, 2008 23:51 |  #7

ImageMogul wrote in post #5500322 (external link)
Nice title, CB! Would you mind if I do an experimental crop on your photo?

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May 11, 2008 00:07 |  #8

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Be my guest :D

If you turn on Image Editing OK, then you'll get several versions I would suspect :D


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May 11, 2008 01:47 |  #9

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If you turn on Image Editing OK, then you'll get several versions I would suspect :D

Here's mine:

Oops, its turned on now :oops: and I like what you've done. As someone on POTN said...."Photoshop is the best game available for a PC" (or words to that effect)


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May 11, 2008 09:21 |  #10

The problem I see with this shot is the "horizon"...or in this case, the tree/water line, is smack-dab right in the middle of the shot. Personally I'd crop most of the trees out and take some off the left side as well. Of course I think you could also just crop some of the top off and leave it as a panorama too. Either way I'd follow the rule of thirds on this one and put your horizon in the upper third. The trees are pretty, but to me that's not what this shot is about...it's the boats and the "smoke" that are the main subject here so I'd trim it down.

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May 11, 2008 22:09 as a reply to  @ Walczak Photo's post |  #11

This is not intended to be a suggested crop of the original, but rather a suggestion of a possible "subject of interest" (the solitary little rusty blue john boat at the end of the pier) - a less busy subject with a feeling of solitude and peacefulness. This simple subject properly reframed & with the surrounding fog might set a nice mood and tell a good story as well.

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May 11, 2008 23:17 |  #12

^^^ Hey, I like that.


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May 11, 2008 23:27 as a reply to  @ ImageMogul's post |  #13

LeuceDeuce wrote in post #5500639 (external link)
If you turn on Image Editing OK, then you'll get several versions I would suspect :D

Here's mine:

Chris, I like the way that yor edit helped to bring three dimensional detail to the trees in the background, but I don't think that it was good for the water and to some degree, the boats. Perhaps some layer masking to emphasize certain parts would work well. I feel that morning fog on the water should leave a muted somber mood in contrast to the opposite shore.

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The problem I see with this shot is the "horizon"...or in this case, the tree/water line, is smack-dab right in the middle of the shot. Personally I'd crop most of the trees out and take some off the left side as well. Of course I think you could also just crop some of the top off and leave it as a panorama too. Either way I'd follow the rule of thirds on this one and put your horizon in the upper third. The trees are pretty, but to me that's not what this shot is about...it's the boats and the "smoke" that are the main subject here so I'd trim it down.

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The horizon location doesn't bother me. After all, it is not really a rule, just a guideline to help improve a picture when it doesn't really have anything else going for it. This image has plenty going for it. After all, great photographers like A. Aubrey Bodine and Ansel Adams both had many images with the horizon dead center.


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May 11, 2008 23:44 |  #14

bill boehme wrote in post #5505920 (external link)
Chris, I like the way that yor edit helped to bring three dimensional detail to the trees in the background, but I don't think that it was good for the water and to some degree, the boats. Perhaps some layer masking to emphasize certain parts would work well. I feel that morning fog on the water should leave a muted somber mood in contrast to the opposite shore.

I agree 100%

I don't like the edit on my desktop because it's big enough for me to see all the damage caused by the compression. I did it on my laptop, and the resolution is higher so the image is smaller which hides the imperfections. I'm going to take another shot at this in a bit.


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May 12, 2008 02:48 as a reply to  @ LeuceDeuce's post |  #15

To all those that so generously replied - THANKS :D

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