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May 11, 2008 06:54 |  #1

I offered to go down an take pictures of the participants in a charity bike run , the riders left around midnight on friday and covered 1100 miles around the UK. Any comments welcome and more can be seen here ..... www.casey-rose.com (external link) under "saddlesore rally"
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May 11, 2008 07:21 |  #2

Love them. Is this same lighting setup as #41 on your web site in the "with wheels" catagory?


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May 11, 2008 07:35 |  #3

ChunkyDA wrote in post #5501664 (external link)
Love them. Is this same lighting setup as #41 on your web site in the "with wheels" catagory?

Thanks for the comments , yes very similar set up but I used softboxes on these and as it was done in a big business park they ran some mains power for me so I had more freedom with light placement , it was very similar though . I had actually taken 4 lights to experiment with but there was so much going on I elected to keep it simple.
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May 11, 2008 08:48 |  #4

They look pretty good for midnight shots. Maybe a bit high in contrast, but it's hard to tell on my laptop.


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May 11, 2008 11:41 |  #5

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They look pretty good for midnight shots. Maybe a bit high in contrast, but it's hard to tell on my laptop.

Hi Frank , I do make these quite contrasty as I like the look for certain styles of images , I hope they are not too contrasty though , I have had a recent laptop malfunction and the new one just doesnt seem the same when calibrated with the Huey .
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May 13, 2008 06:19 |  #6

The contrast really makes them pop out from the black background. Is the soft box the reason the light falls off so quickly? would I be able to get same effect with bare flash?


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May 13, 2008 06:37 |  #7

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The contrast really makes them pop out from the black background. Is the soft box the reason the light falls off so quickly? would I be able to get same effect with bare flash?

Hi chunky
Thanks the contrast really does help them pop and its the look that was desired. The shots were actually taken in a very well lit business park with a lot of background clutter , you can get the same rapid light fall off effect with bare flash /brollies or softboxes the choice of bareflash or which modifyers is more a matter of the type of light falling on the bike/rider / car /person etc etc
This one was taken in a supermarket car park and was with brolllies

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May 13, 2008 19:54 |  #8

I think what they need is a hot flash "hairlight" coming from the back to help separate the leathers & tires from the black background.


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May 13, 2008 20:06 |  #9

Sure is a nice effect, I'm gonna have to steal it for local motorcycle club pics.


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May 14, 2008 04:56 |  #10

PhotosGuy wrote in post #5518876 (external link)
I think what they need is a hot flash "hairlight" coming from the back to help separate the leathers & tires from the black background.

Hi Frank , I did take 4 lights and had every intention of setting up #3 as a kicker quite low and 3/4 behind and #4 as a rim high and behind and experiment with those effects , as it was a big event and they were time critical I talked it over with the organizers and the decision was made to keep it simple . That said I do like the efffect as it is and dont mind the merge to black , I could lighten some of the merge areas in PP . Some of the guys who missed out on individual shots as they rushed of have been in touch and asked for image so I will be doing this at a couple of local bike meets and will have more time to experiment.

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Sure is a nice effect, I'm gonna have to steal it for local motorcycle club pics.

Give it a go !! its good fun and if you get it right you will have a lot of happy people , most comment on how arty they look compared to a brightly lit shot with background , several people have said they cant believe they were shot outdoors in car parks ahahahah , hope to see the results.
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May 14, 2008 08:32 |  #11

it was a big event and they were time critical I talked it over with the organizers and the decision was made to keep it simple .

If you don't mind the merge to black, then that's fine. They're your shots.

Here's a hint though. I would never ask them what they have time for. After finding out what they want, I'd say, "Gentlemen, here's how we're going to do this. I need an extra 5 minutes to get set up." ;)


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May 14, 2008 09:51 |  #12

PhotosGuy wrote in post #5521821 (external link)
If you don't mind the merge to black, then that's fine. They're your shots.

Here's a hint though. I would never ask them what they have time for. After finding out what they want, I'd say, "Gentlemen, here's how we're going to do this. I need an extra 5 minutes to get set up." ;)

You pick up on some good points Frank.
I do like the shots this way and they are also liked by those that I give the shots too , and thats important because I really enjoy this type of shooting on cars and bike and want to build a portfolio of shots , this means attracting people to let me shoot nice cars and bikes and I would like to give them an image they want and like.
when using 2 lights run from the battery (travelpak) I tend to position a large reflector to just add a smalll amount of light around the rear wheel / underbelly area or on a car the o/s/f corner and this works well to give a small amout of separation , when I have mains available I will be sppoilt for choice.
On that particular shoot I had intended to set up the 4 lights but there was a lot of people and machines about and they were under time pressure to get off at around midnight , this meant the group shoots took priority , there were a number of other shooting options but I discussed not only time with them but also H&S health and safety , with that many people (including children) and bikes I was concerned about an accident and someone getting hurt which made the choice of keeping it simple easier for me.
So far I have mostly been doing this with individual cars and bike and small groups ,so this was quite a large group for me , I have a couple of nice car / bike shoots in the pipeline inc a New Aston Martin and a new Gixxer, the idea is i get the shots I want and they get shots they want , if they want more light I will add the reflector or if there is mains go to 4 lights if needed also if they want the shots with a bit of background i can drag the shutter a bit to let in some ambiant etc.
I can see where I'm headed and have a pretty good idea of how to get there so the next couple of shoots should prove interesting.
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May 14, 2008 20:35 |  #13

I can see where I'm headed and have a pretty good idea of how to get there so the next couple of shoots should prove interesting.

Bring them on!


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