I have a bit of a techinical question and hope someone can answer it.
How does an image become sharper when you make the aperture smaller? If less light is getting through how does the dof become clearer?
Many thanks
Mikey
mikeyjm26 Mostly Lurking 18 posts Joined Oct 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland More info | May 12, 2008 10:37 | #1 I have a bit of a techinical question and hope someone can answer it.
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Lowner "I'm the original idiot" 12,924 posts Likes: 18 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Salisbury, UK. More info | May 12, 2008 10:50 | #2 Mikey, Richard
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shutterfiend Goldmember 2,058 posts Joined Feb 2007 Location: NJ More info | May 12, 2008 10:55 | #3 1. The image doesn't get any sharper, only more of it appears to be in focus. https://photography-on-the.net …p=7812587&postcount=91776
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May 12, 2008 10:55 | #4 Richard,
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RenéDamkot Cream of the Crop 39,856 posts Likes: 8 Joined Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands More info | May 12, 2008 10:57 | #5 The technicalities: Click "I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
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shutterfiend Goldmember 2,058 posts Joined Feb 2007 Location: NJ More info | May 12, 2008 11:02 | #6 dof= depth of field. https://photography-on-the.net …p=7812587&postcount=91776
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | =]It does not as far as I'm aware. The image doesn't get any sharper, only more of it appears to be in focus. Lenses DO GET SHARPER when you begin to stop down the aperture from max...typically highest resolving power of the lens is about 2-3 f/stops from wide open! While a lens' aerial resolution is max at max aperture, resolution on film in an optical system will typically show better MTF 2-3 f/stops from max aperture You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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carianoff Senior Member 611 posts Joined Nov 2007 Location: Detroitish, Michigan More info | May 12, 2008 11:32 | #8
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Jon Cream of the Crop 69,628 posts Likes: 227 Joined Jun 2004 Location: Bethesda, MD USA More info | May 12, 2008 11:52 | #9 You want a graphic example, try: IMG NOTICE: [NOT AN IMAGE URL, NOT RENDERED INLINE] The cyan lines show the paths of light rays through a lens from a single point in your subject at large apertures; the dark magenta ones are at a smaller aperture. And any point that's not at your subject's plane of focus will leave a blur proportional to the angle of the incoming light rays. So at smaller apertures, the cone of light coming through the lens is much narrower; the picture looks sharper.Jon
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shutterfiend Goldmember 2,058 posts Joined Feb 2007 Location: NJ More info | May 12, 2008 12:44 | #10 mikeyjm26 wrote in post #5508250 I have a bit of a techinical question and hope someone can answer it. How does an image become sharper when you make the aperture smaller? If less light is getting through how does the dof become clearer? Many thanks Mikey Wilt wrote in post #5508477 Lenses DO GET SHARPER when you begin to stop down the aperture from max...typically highest resolving power of the lens is about 2-3 f/stops from wide open! While a lens' aerial resolution is max at max aperture, resolution on film in an optical system will typically show better MTF 2-3 f/stops from max aperture Wilt, I don't believe the OPs question had much to do with maximum aperture. https://photography-on-the.net …p=7812587&postcount=91776
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | May 12, 2008 14:37 | #11 shutterfiend wrote in post #5508999 Wilt, I don't believe the OPs question had much to do with maximum aperture. He did state, "How does an image become sharper when you make the aperture smaller?" And the image qulaity does become higher in delivered resolution as you go from max aperture to around f/5.6 typically, then after peaking the resolution does start to decrease. So what other circumstance should we be trying to answer?! You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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Jon Cream of the Crop 69,628 posts Likes: 227 Joined Jun 2004 Location: Bethesda, MD USA More info | May 12, 2008 14:39 | #12 Well, he did go on to ask If less light is getting through how does the dof become clearer? Jon
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | May 12, 2008 14:48 | #13 Jon wrote in post #5509837 Well, he did go on to ask So, OP, were there two questions posed about single topic sharpness? You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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bomberman Member 35 posts Joined Jun 2003 Location: Edmonton, Alberta More info | May 12, 2008 15:14 | #14 At a small aperature (f2) the lense opening is very big. This allows a light from the subject to enter the lense at many different angles which are focused onto the sensor. Light from objects that are farther than the subject will come in to the lense at shallower angles, and will be focused in front of the sensor. By the time the light from these objects reaches the sensor it is out of focus. Light from objects that are closer than the subject will enter the lense at steeper angles, and would be focused behind the sensor. So when the hit the sensor, they are still out of focus.
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shutterfiend Goldmember 2,058 posts Joined Feb 2007 Location: NJ More info | May 12, 2008 17:03 | #15 Wilt wrote in post #5509827 He did state, "How does an image become sharper when you make the aperture smaller?" And the image qulaity does become higher in delivered resolution as you go from max aperture to around f/5.6 typically, then after peaking the resolution does start to decrease. So what other circumstance should we be trying to answer?! shutterfiend wrote in post #5508396 dof= depth of field. f4 (larger aperture) gives you a shallower depth of field than f22 (smaller aperture). There are other factors that come into play at f22 that may reduce sharpness. Lens construction and diffraction do play their parts in image sharpness, however, such information may clutter understanding of basic concepts, IMO. https://photography-on-the.net …p=7812587&postcount=91776
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