Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos The Business of Photography 
Thread started 12 May 2008 (Monday) 18:54
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Whats asking to much?

 
CMax
Member
107 posts
Joined Mar 2008
     
May 12, 2008 18:54 |  #1

I get this call from a guy whos handling a comedian coming to my town. They are paying $150 a day for 3 days and needs me a couple of hours a day. Also they said I need to sign a photo release for a work-for-hire so they could have full rights to use the photos. They go on to say "These shots will be used for publicity and might be blown up for newspaper, magazine or DVD artwork purposes." Should I tell them give me more and we got a deal or go with it since it could mean better connections? I have no prob with turning them down but it seems like they are asking more than $150/day worth...


Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
airfrogusmc
I'm a chimper. There I said it...
37,970 posts
Gallery: 179 photos
Best ofs: 6
Likes: 13442
Joined May 2007
Location: Oak Park, Illinois
     
May 12, 2008 18:59 |  #2

That should be your hourly rate. ;)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
deadpass
Goldmember
Avatar
3,353 posts
Joined Jun 2006
Location: phoenix, az
     
May 12, 2008 19:04 |  #3

airfrogusmc wrote in post #5511473 (external link)
That should be your hourly rate. ;)

agreed 150 an hour is about right.


a camera
http://www.deadpass.co​m (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mike ­ R
Goldmember
4,319 posts
Likes: 7
Joined May 2006
Location: 06478, CT
     
May 12, 2008 19:24 |  #4

Work for Hire means that they OWN the copyright. They don't even have to give you any type of credit when it's used and you cannot do anything with the shots. Get a copy of ASMP Professional Business Practices In Photography 6th ed. It goes into details along with stating that they are opposed to Work for Hire agreements. The person who contacted you is looking for a bargain. I think that the only connection it may lead to is from other people looking for a cheap way to get things done.

Another good explaination can be foud in Best Business Practices For Photographers by John Harrington


Mike R
www.mikerubinphoto.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
CMax
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
107 posts
Joined Mar 2008
     
May 12, 2008 20:13 |  #5

thanks a bunch, I thought about it and was thinking thats a retarded offer. Ill counter him with the $150 a hr and if he doesnt want it Ill go on about my way.


Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Zansho
"I'd kill for a hot pink 40D"
Avatar
2,547 posts
Gallery: 9 photos
Likes: 800
Joined Feb 2008
Location: Austin, Tx
     
May 12, 2008 21:28 |  #6

that's ridiculous. 3 days shoot, $150.00 for the whole thing? That works out to $50.00/day. I know Walmart Employees who get paid better than that, no offense to those who work at WM.

Your time is worth something to you. 2 hours a day for you to show up, shoot, then you take the raw files home, edit in whatever image program you're using, then burn a low res sample onto a CD for their viewing - that's a lot of work. I'm agreed with the folks above - $150.00 PER hour is what I'd charge for this. Remember, you still got bills to pay, equipment to upkeep, things like that.


http://www.michaeljsam​aripa.com (external link) creating beautiful images for myself, my clients, and the world. Shooting with a mix of Canon, Fuji, and Sony.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Stocky
Senior Member
Avatar
731 posts
Joined Feb 2008
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
     
May 12, 2008 23:00 |  #7

I would argue the terms and not just the rate. They might be happy with unlimited usage instead of buying out your copyright, and having something like this in your portfolio is more likely to help you make connections than the shoot its self.


Always happy to hear some critique
gear list

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
fiveFPS
Goldmember
1,180 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Sep 2007
     
May 13, 2008 11:33 |  #8

let us know what they say =)


Canon XTI | Canon 430ex | Crumpler 7MDH | 18-55mm

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
amfoto1
Cream of the Crop
10,331 posts
Likes: 146
Joined Aug 2007
Location: San Jose, California
     
May 13, 2008 12:47 |  #9

I think the guy trying to hire you is the comedian.


Alan Myers (external link) "Walk softly and carry a big lens."
5DII, 7DII, 7D, M5 & others. 10-22mm, Meike 12/2.8,Tokina 12-24/4, 20/2.8, EF-M 22/2, TS 24/3.5L, 24-70/2.8L, 28/1.8, 28-135 IS (x2), TS 45/2.8, 50/1.4, Sigma 56/1.4, Tamron 60/2.0, 70-200/4L IS, 70-200/2.8 IS, 85/1.8, Tamron 90/2.5, 100/2.8 USM, 100-400L II, 135/2L, 180/3.5L, 300/4L IS, 300/2.8L IS, 500/4L IS, EF 1.4X II, EF 2X II. Flashes, strobes & various access. - FLICKR (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
joephotos
Mostly Lurking
19 posts
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Louisiana
     
May 13, 2008 12:55 |  #10

Zan,
He said, "$150 a day for 3 days". Not "$150 fr 3 days". Wasn't a slam :)


Regards,
Joe W

Zansho wrote in post #5512412 (external link)
that's ridiculous. 3 days shoot, $150.00 for the whole thing? That works out to $50.00/day. I know Walmart Employees who get paid better than that, no offense to those who work at WM.

Your time is worth something to you. 2 hours a day for you to show up, shoot, then you take the raw files home, edit in whatever image program you're using, then burn a low res sample onto a CD for their viewing - that's a lot of work. I'm agreed with the folks above - $150.00 PER hour is what I'd charge for this. Remember, you still got bills to pay, equipment to upkeep, things like that.


Canon 5D,20D,Digi-Rebel,Canon 70-200L f/4,Canon 50 1.4/1.8, Tamron SWA AF 17-35 f/2.8-4...Various AB lights and studio junk :D

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
CMax
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
107 posts
Joined Mar 2008
     
May 13, 2008 13:48 as a reply to  @ joephotos's post |  #11

LOL yeah hes the comedian :). The price was $150 a day. I sent him a message back letting him know that after taxes, lens rental, gas, and the lack credit it wasn't worth my time and if he could come back with more money I'd reconsider it. Id network like crazy even without credit for the pictures which would get my foot in other doors but that measly $150 a day wont buy me the Alien Bees I want. So I'm waiting for him to reply if he does. Its no sweat off my back I still have jobs to do.


Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,123 views & 0 likes for this thread, 9 members have posted to it.
Whats asking to much?
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos The Business of Photography 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
2138 guests, 127 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.