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May 16, 2008 08:02 |  #91

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Omnipotent they are not! Remember Betamax?

I do.

It was actually the superior format. One of Sony's few marketing failures.


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May 16, 2008 10:23 as a reply to  @ FlyingPhotog's post |  #92

I'll be one of the first to admit that, in general, Sony makes excellent products. Trinitron™ CRTs, for example, were head and shoulders above the rest.

They are not omnipotent, however. They blew it with Betamax by creating a superior format, granted, but one that did not allow an average movie to fit on one tape. They corrected that near the end, but it was too late.

They didn't make the same mistake with Blu-Ray™, and the superior format won out.

With their cameras, they almost blew it again with their Memory-Stick™ cards. But their cameras were just so much better than the competition, at the time, that they managed to squeek through. That battle is not over, however, and they could still lose.

With their DSLRs, I think they blew it with in-camera IS. Granted, that will appeal to many, if not most, of the vacation shooters, but in-camera IS is definitely not the choice of professionals. They may kill or severely wound the Canon and Nikon P&S markets, but I doubt they will make strong inroads into the DSLR market, except at the very lowest end.

Besides which, their lenses don't even come close to top Canon or Nikkor lenses in IQ.

Just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

Oh, yes. Speaking of memory cards....

I think Canon should drop CF cards and switch to SD cards. Why? Well, one reason might be that laptops these days typically have integral 5-way card readers, which do not include CF cards. This makes CF cards much less convenient to download in the field.

Another reason is that the interconnect for SD cards is more robust than that for CF cards. Nothing can ruin your day like breaking or bending a pin out in the field, especially in the middle of a commercial shoot.

Why switch to SD cards (instead of some other format, that is)? Because they are (currently, at least) the most common format out there, and are of a convenient size. Memory-Stick™ is a Sony thing, and the xD and mini-SD cards are just too damned small for those of us with big hunking hands to manipulate easily, especially in cold weather when my old-man fingers get stiff.

Besides, Canon already uses SD cards in the 1Ds- and 1D-series cameras. There, they should have two SD slots! Keep the two-card concept! (Ya gotta get sumthin for that much money!)

Again, just my opinion.




  
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May 16, 2008 11:06 as a reply to  @ 20droger's post |  #93

Way off topic, should be locked.....:evil:..:p


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May 16, 2008 15:35 |  #94

Do Nikon people refer to Canon cameras as Conans?

garryknight wrote in post #5533343 (external link)
I don't mind people using the term Noink to refer to Nikons, but I would like to point out that Canon cameras don't use ink either. :p




  
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May 16, 2008 18:14 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #95

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Remember Blu-Ray? They won that one :-)

No, they just haven't lost it yet. It's still got to beat conventional DVD in the marketplace . . .


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May 16, 2008 18:32 |  #96

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Do Nikon people refer to Canon cameras as Conans?

Yes of course, because to Noinks we are all hairy barbarians..

Any of you ever heard the term "when in Rome, do as the Romans would do" ?

Among other things it means when we travel we should adjust to the ways of the places we visit, as opposed to trying to impose our own POV on all the native around us. It means we should not only be accepting of there customs, but the "do " part means we should engage in them (if appropriate )

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May 16, 2008 19:18 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #97

Why, hail yes!




  
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May 16, 2008 19:21 |  #98

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Why, hail yes!

What he said!

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May 16, 2008 19:27 |  #99

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No, they just haven't lost it yet. It's still got to beat conventional DVD in the marketplace . . .

I think it will, Jon. There are enough people out there who feel they MUST have an HD picture, lest the world as we know it come to an end.

As the commercial says: "Think of your friends! This game isn't even in HD!"

My "friends" can go buy their own HD, thank you! That way I'll not only save on the purchase of HD equipment, I'll save even more by not having to purchase beer and snacks for those freeloaders!




  
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May 16, 2008 19:41 |  #100

20droger wrote in post #5536262 (external link)
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They are not omnipotent, however. They blew it with Betamax by creating a superior format, granted, but one that did not allow an average movie to fit on one tape. They corrected that near the end, but it was too late.

Believe it or not, Sony sold many, many Betamax machines to radio stations near the onset of radio station automation.

They made great 60-90 minute "cart" machines that could be cued, rolled, paused and/or stopped by computer. A rackful of these could hold your programming for a couple of entire shifts.

They did take a bath on Betamax but not as big a bath as you might think. Also, BetaMAX begat BetaCAM which has been the dominant professional videotape format for a very long time. Sony flat out OWNS the broadcast industry.


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May 17, 2008 00:30 |  #101

Sony has a lot of experience in prosumer electronics and gaming.
I see a Playstation camera coming. WiFi, Bluetooth, 3D-sound with the option of buying all the stuff you ever dreamed off with PayPal and completely skipping the boring and disappointing part of taking photos...going out and coming back with your catch.
Instead, you can capture faultless stuff from the Net and (to a price) get to present it as youur own.

That'll be heaven: Just buying and buying and talking pixels!


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May 17, 2008 08:11 |  #102

20droger wrote in post #5529050 (external link)
Also, in American English, we use double quotes as the basic quote form, with single quotes as internal quotes, alternating accordingly. I believe you Brits do the reverse in formal writing.

Yes, that's right. You lot also put your quotation marks on the wrong side of commas and full stops, but seeing as you also drive on the wrong side of the road I will make no further comment.

Considering that our preferred use is for single quotation marks over double, from reading newspapers over here you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise.

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May 17, 2008 08:18 |  #103

Awesome apparently in some cases it must now mean mediocre (especially in the case of female self portraits in the G&N forum)


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May 17, 2008 08:34 |  #104

Mike-DT6 wrote in post #5542119 (external link)
Yes, that's right. You lot also put your quotation marks on the wrong side of commas and full stops, but seeing as you also drive on the wrong side of the road I will make no further comment.

Considering that our preferred use is for single quotation marks over double, from reading newspapers over here you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise.

Mike

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I hate these Brit vs American arguments. There are people who make grammatical errors on both sides of the pond (God, I hate that expression). I'm an American married to a Brit. He says and eats things that seem odd to me and I say and eat things that seem odd to him. I was moving to London when I met him and he says he'd never go back, so here we are. Tons of Brits over here and tons of Americans over there. Variety is the spice of life. Over-generalizations don't work in anyone's favor.


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May 17, 2008 08:42 |  #105

It's not a Britain versus America argument. It's a Mike versus Roger taunt, posted in the spirit of our previous communications. ;-)a

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