1DS MKII or 1D MKII

Taking picture is not my job, but it takes at least 1 hr from me every day and 2 week's trip every yr.

I have 1D MKII, and I find:
- It is a very good camera.
- Seldom use it means I did not use it as often as my 645AFD or 1V or NIkon F5.

I paid deposit for 1DS MKII and it is on the way, and I still have 1 month's time to cancel it. So I wonder should I get it.

I should say I have too many digital camera, dslr (Canon & Nikon), L lens, I need a hugh Procan to store them.

if you're looking for extra resolution and field of view, the 1dsmkii will have this over the 1dmkii, but not significantly. i mean the sample photos that have been posted reveal amazing details - to me this isn't to make up for poor composition, rather to leverage excellent glass to provide truer to life imagery. again, that's me and probably not everyone's opinion.

personally, i've found that spending lots of time using the 1dmkii in the fashion of photography i am accustomed to taking. for me that's outdoor sports (and also kid's portraits, as well as people on the streets, etc.). where i had to change behaviour to fit the 10d (causing lower ratio of keepers, etc.), the 1dmkii was much more like what i was accustomed to. and after taking tens of thousands of pics, i have found that my composition naturally suits the job with minimal cropping - i don't have to think about the camera. perhaps for you, as you say, are so used to using other equipment that maybe the wider field of view the 1dsmkii will afford would fit your style better.

can i ask - what specifically about the 1dmkii that you'd like the 1dsmkii to improve on, and maybe people could address those points directly. obviously you've mentioned composition above. but the difference between full frame and 1.3 crop factor isn't huge (and easily made up for with the glass you have, i'd think). are you happy with the af speed and accuracy? is it only resolution you're interested in?

- I really don't understand the 8.2M compair to 16.6M's MAX. print size?
- How is 16.6M compair to 35mm print size?
- How is 16.6M compair to 645's print size?
- Yes, do need time to get use to different field size.

- For Canon setup, I have 300D, 1D MKII, EOS 1V, 1.5 fisheye, 50 1.4, 100 marco, 16-35L, 24-70L, 70-200 2.8L IS, 1.4X, and I find 1.3 crop is wonderful for long range zoom. But in the wide size 1.3 crop is wasting money, you need to have go very wide to have the same effect as 35mm film,
- I would like to have more detail (resolution) in the whole picture, because I only print 4R for preview and will go for 8 X 10 or even A2 & A1 for framing.

Sorry to raise so many questions

Hope this helps a bit.

- a 3MP camera will produce lovely 8x12 prints with no cropping.
- a 6MP camera will produce wonderful 12x18 prints with no cropping. It natively produces a 8x12 print at 240DPI
- a 8MP camera will allow for some cropping about a 10x15" print without cropping.
- a 16MP camera will produce a 16x24" print with no cropping and no enlargement.

Because you are starting in the digital realm (versus film), you can extrapolate (or enlarge) your print by a factor of 2 before you will start to notice any artifacts in a print.
Thus an 8MP camera can produce what appears to the human eye to be a flawless 20x30" print, this is as good as color film although not as good as the best BW film. The 16MP will produce a 30x40" print, this is as good as medium format color film and as good as 35mm BW film. Under the right conditions you can make it even larger. Digital tends to extrapolate easier then film does because of the nature of the grains in the film.

So how big of a print will you probably ever print? If 16x24" is it then either the 1D2 will continue to work great for you, but if you need to crop a lot or go larger then it goes to the 1DsM2.

I would advise that since you have one on order already, take it and then decide if oyu want to part with your 1D2.

Just my opinion,

Thank you for your clear information about the print size.

My deal call me today that the 1DS2 will arrive on next Monday, and my friend will buy my 1D2 in tomorrow. So I guest, I have to say good bye to my 1D2.

You'll enjoy the 1DS MKII. I'm still learning to use mine but loving it the more I use it.

Most of the pros print 16 x 20 with a little croping from 8 meg pixels.

16 is twice as good, I would think that larger then 20x30 is possable.

I know I have printed 13 x 19 with my 4 mega pixel and Have seen 13 x 19 prints from a Nikon 3 mega pixel that would knock your socks off.

If you read the specs you get allot of new features like wi fi transmission. Increased speed and 8 mega pixels more.

I have a 20 D and if I had the ability of buying an MKII for 4000 I would opt for 2 20D to have a second body.

My friend just came to pickup my 1D MKII, a kind of sick feeling.

But my 1DS MKII is coming next Monday. Only thing missing is 8fps.