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birth of a Volkswagon Beetle

 
marie
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May 16, 2008 09:47 |  #1

:)

for any interested parties, this VW was used by the Germans in WW2
(shown at a local military vehicle show on Sunday last)


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" History
The origins of the car date back to 1930s **** Germany. Adolf Hitler's desire that almost anybody should be able to afford a car fitted with a proposal by car designer Ferdinand Porsche, although Hitler himself played some role in the car's shape and, possibly, nickname. Dissatisfied with the initial design of the car's front end (and perhaps caught up in the 1930s' mania for all things streamlined) Hitler penned a more rounded shape on a napkin and handed it to Porsche with the instructions, "it should look like a beetle, you only have to look to nature to find out what true streamlining is." The intention was that ordinary working Germans would buy the car by means of a savings scheme.
Prototypes of the car called the KdF-Wagen (German: Kraft durch Freude = strength through joy), appeared from 1935 onwards�the first prototypes were produced by Daimler-Benz in Stuttgart. The car already had its distinctive round shape (designed by Erwin Komenda) and air-cooled, flat-four, rear-mounted engine. However, the factory (in the new town of Kdf-Stadt, purpose-built for the factory workers) had only produced a handful of cars by the time war started in 1939. Consequently the first volume-produced versions of the car's chassis (if not body) were military vehicles, the jeep-like K�belwagen (approx. 52,000 built) and the amphibious Schwimmwagen (approx. 14,000 built).
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Deliberately designed to be as simple as possible mechanically, there was simply less that could go wrong; the radiator-less air-cooled 985 cm� 25 hp (19 kW) motors proved especially effective in action in North Africa's desert heat. A handful of civilian-spec Beetles were produced, primarily for the **** elite, in the years 1940-1945, but production figures were small. In response to gasoline shortages, a few wartime "Holzbrenner" Beetles were steam-powered with wood burning boilers under the hood. In addition to the Kubelwagen, Schwimmwagen, and a handful of others, the factory managed another wartime vehicle: the Kommandeurwagen; a Beetle body mounted on the 4WD Kubelwagen chassis. A total of 669 Kommandeurwagens were produced until 1945, when all production was halted due to heavy damage sustained in Allied air raids on the factory. Much of the essential equipment had already been moved to underground bunkers for protection, allowing production to resume quickly once hostilities had ended.
Much of the Beetle's design was inspired by the advanced Tatra cars of Hans Ledwinka. Tatra sued, but the lawsuit was stopped when Germany invaded Czechoslovakia. The matter was re-opened after WW2 and in 1961 Volkswagen paid Tatra 3,000,000 Deutsche Marks.
The Volkswagen Company owes its post war existence largely to one man, British army officer Major Ivan Hirst (1916�2000). Post-war, he was ordered to take control of the heavily bombed factory, which the Americans had captured. He persuaded the British military to order 20,000 of the cars, and by 1946 the factory was producing 1,000 cars a month. The car and its town changed their ****-era names, to Volkswagen (people's car) and Wolfsburg. The first 1,785 Beetles were made in a factory near Wolfsburg in 1945 "

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May 16, 2008 14:18 |  #2

whats with the ****?


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May 16, 2008 14:19 |  #3

Neat PP, looks like a genuine old image. :D


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May 16, 2008 14:21 |  #4

NEMESISMACHINE30D wrote in post #5537842 (external link)
whats with the ****?

word "n a z i" I think




  
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May 16, 2008 18:50 as a reply to  @ Discov3ry's post |  #5

Great series of shots, I agree, a wonderful effect to help set the period. Nicely done.


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May 16, 2008 18:58 |  #6

Ya, ya, das ees gute.
I haf der type 1 beetle cabrio so i know the joys of Hitlers revenge. :D
I think its a VW Thing, which was manufactured in Mexico, thats in the first shot.
Der Kubelwagen was the military ww2 version and , lets not forget der Schwimwagen, :D which was amphibeous.


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May 16, 2008 20:04 |  #7

Nice PP on those shots, Marie. Thanks for the history, too.


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May 16, 2008 20:15 |  #8

NZDoug wrote in post #5539543 (external link)
I think its a VW Thing, which was manufactured in Mexico, thats in the first shot.

The VW in the pictures above is a Type 181, also known as a "Trekker", they were German built in the early 70's.

The "Thing" was a later version of the same vehicle for the US market and had slightly different features, later tail light etc. etc.

This is a "Thing"....

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NZDoug wrote in post #5539543 (external link)
Der Kubelwagen was the military ww2 version and , lets not forget der Schwimwagen, :D which was amphibeous.

And this is a Kubelwagen....

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May 16, 2008 22:09 |  #9

marie, a production version of that body style went out in 1970s or something and in america, its called "The thing"

oops, question answered above.


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May 16, 2008 23:00 |  #10

The MG42 light machine gun on the Kubelwagen looks very business like...:p


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May 19, 2008 09:03 |  #11

NEMESISMACHINE30D wrote in post #5537842 (external link)
whats with the ****?

its the way the message was printed on the site
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for safety reasons ;)

Anke wrote in post #5537849 (external link)
Neat PP, looks like a genuine old image.

thanks Anke

Discov3ry wrote in post #5537861 (external link)
word "n a z i" I think

thanks Discov3ry


stoneylonesome wrote in post #5539514 (external link)
Great series of shots, I agree, a wonderful effect to help set the period. Nicely done.

thanks Sandy
I done 'old picture' effect on some and not on others as it is hard to see the 'weapons' properly in some

NZDoug wrote in post #5539543 (external link)
Ya, ya, das ees gute.
I haf der type 1 beetle cabrio so i know the joys of Hitlers revenge.
I think its a VW Thing, which was manufactured in Mexico, thats in the first shot.
Der Kubelwagen was the military ww2 version and , lets not forget der Schwimwagen, which was amphibeous.


:eek:

: )

many thanks for all that information NZDoug


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Nice PP on those shots, Marie. Thanks for the history, too.

thanks Frank
I was trying to remember all the information I got that day (and took some notes)
but no way can I remember everything so I copied that info.

Jules.r wrote in post #5539852 (external link)
The VW in the pictures above is a Type 181, also known as a "Trekker", they were German built in the early 70's.

The "Thing" was a later version of the same vehicle for the US market and had slightly different features, later tail light etc. etc.

This is a "Thing"....

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And this is a Kubelwagen....

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terrific. thanks for those pictures and information Jules

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RadAL wrote in post #5540458 (external link)
marie, a production version of that body style went out in 1970s or something and in america, its called "The thing"

oops, question answered above.

lol
ta Ra


NZDoug wrote in post #5540683 (external link)
The MG42 light machine gun on the Kubelwagen looks very business like...:p

:shock:

lol

thanks NZDoug

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something like the shot of Jules vehicle ?

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thanks all very much
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Jul 06, 2008 04:40 |  #12

Nemesismachine wrote in post #5537842 (external link)
whats with the ****?

I guess it's the system telling us we can't say Third Reich ;)


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