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May 22, 2008 10:43 |  #1

On page 90 of Joe Mcnallys book he mentions he leaves his camera on rear curtain sync all the time to freeze subject during action.

would there be any disadvantage/negative impact to leaving it rear curtain sync?


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May 22, 2008 10:46 |  #2

With rear curtain sync you end up with the movement blur leading up to the frozen person rather than away from them... assuming in that example that you're shooting a moving person with a long shutter speed.

I changed my camera to rear curtain sync ages ago for just that effect and haven't changed it since... If you're not using shutter speeds where you'll get movement blur I don't think you could notice the difference.


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May 22, 2008 13:29 |  #3

A few times when I did night group shot (longer shutter speed), some one would start to move out of poses after they see the preflash, had to explaim to them over and over again :(


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May 22, 2008 13:30 |  #4

Lotto wrote in post #5575868 (external link)
A few times when I did night group shot (longer shutter speed), some one would start to move out of poses after they see the preflash, had to explaim to them over and over again :(

Just tell 'em it's like that red-eye reduction preflash you get with some of the little P&S cams ;)


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May 22, 2008 13:42 |  #5

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A few times when I did night group shot (longer shutter speed), some one would start to move out of poses after they see the preflash, had to explaim to them over and over again :(

I can believe that preflashes might be a problem with P&S camera where the interval between the preflash and the main flash may last ages, but is that really true with a DSLR, assuming one is using a shutter speed of 1/60 or faster. Of course, if a slower shutter speed is use, it may be an issue but then it would be an issue whether the flash occurred at 1st sync or 2nd sync. ;)

Now, if you have a blinker in the group, then I can understand using 1st sync instead of 2nd. I used to have my camera set to 2nd sync during my film days but switched to 1st sync with digital when I found too many people with their eyes closed in flash pictures.


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May 22, 2008 14:03 |  #6

Leo gave better example with the blinkers. I was thinking more like "kids are out of the frame in a blink" :)


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May 22, 2008 19:18 as a reply to  @ Lotto's post |  #7

One problem with leaving flash on 2nd curtain is that on the 580, it will preclude high speed flash....which I use all (well, have it set on) of the time.


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May 22, 2008 19:40 |  #8

Is this book any good? I see that Scott Kelby has recommended it in one of his books.


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May 23, 2008 02:37 |  #9

Seconc curtain sync really screws up your timing with long shutterspeeds. I only use it if I have a light trail where the direction of the light trail is imortant. I never use it in a club setting....


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May 23, 2008 04:11 |  #10

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Is this book any good? I see that Scott Kelby has recommended it in one of his books.

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May 23, 2008 04:28 |  #11

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May 23, 2008 12:41 |  #12

In rear-curtain, do you lose power? I'd set it to that and leave it, if I wasn't concerned about the effect on FEC.


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May 23, 2008 12:53 |  #13

I have a copy, It really explains different situations and how the shot was set up. When i received it (birthday present) I thought Hmmmm, Ill give it a looksee, After the first couple of pages I couldnt put it down. Finished it in a day or so. For newbies and pros...its a good book to reference.
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May 23, 2008 13:17 |  #14

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I have a copy, It really explains different situations and how the shot was set up. When i received it (birthday present) I thought Hmmmm, Ill give it a looksee, After the first couple of pages I couldnt put it down. Finished it in a day or so. For newbies and pros...its a good book to reference.
I recommend it.


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May 23, 2008 14:08 |  #15

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In rear-curtain, do you lose power? I'd set it to that and leave it, if I wasn't concerned about the effect on FEC.

The only difference between 1st curtain sync and 2nd curtain sync is when the flash goes off. All other properties of the flash, i.e. power, duration, FEC, etc., remain unaltered.


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