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May 24, 2008 18:48 |  #31

a_kraker99 wrote in post #5583224 (external link)
So are you saying that gas isnt over priced?

Considering that the oil companies are still doing just fine, evidently not. Things that are overpriced are things that the seller isn't maximizing their profit on because they're not dealing enough volume due to the high price. Things like that tend to get discontinued, i.e. the 200/1.8 and the 50/1.0. Although I hear there were also some production issues with regards to the law, when it came to those, so it may not have been strictly speaking the case...


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May 24, 2008 21:16 |  #32

a_kraker99 wrote in post #5583224 (external link)
So are you saying that gas isnt over priced?

Not if people keep buying it.




  
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May 24, 2008 21:22 |  #33

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Not if people keep buying it.

Let me elaborate.

Nothing has inherent monetary worth. Things are worth what people will pay. If people buy a product/service, it has worth to them. Sure, people might think it is expensive. But to be overpriced, people have to stop buying.




  
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May 24, 2008 21:27 |  #34

Gasoline doesn't follow the general rules of supply & demand. It's not a luxury item. We need it, particularly in rural areas of North America because the infrastructure to stop using it altogether does not exist. Some of us are doing as much as possible to minimize our dependency, but there is still a requirement. We need gasoline to get to work to make money and we need gasoline to get to the store to buy food and clothes. That's a bare minimum and the more rural you are, the more fuel you need to burn just for those basic needs. Sadly there are only a few oil companies and even fewer significant source. The process of finding and procuring crude oil in and of itself is dangerous and expensive, so there aren't many companies willing to jump in and compete with those already established. Because of this, they have us over a barrel. Pun very much intended.


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May 25, 2008 00:16 |  #35

cdifoto wrote in post #5590383 (external link)
Gasoline doesn't follow the general rules of supply & demand.

Sure it does--at least as much as anything does. It's just that the oil producing countries have yet to max out demand. If gas was $300/gallon, people would walk to town or ride their bike to town to get food, to work, etc.

Very few products follow a strict supply/demand relationship. "Supply" is frequently manipulated to help spark demand and the price people are willing to pay. Take pet rocks. There was certainly no short supply of rocks on Earth when companies were fetching $5 for a rock with a name.




  
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May 25, 2008 00:31 |  #36

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Gasoline doesn't follow the general rules of supply & demand. It's not a luxury item. We need it, particularly in rural areas of North America because the infrastructure to stop using it altogether does not exist. Some of us are doing as much as possible to minimize our dependency, but there is still a requirement. We need gasoline to get to work to make money and we need gasoline to get to the store to buy food and clothes. That's a bare minimum and the more rural you are, the more fuel you need to burn just for those basic needs. Sadly there are only a few oil companies and even fewer significant source. The process of finding and procuring crude oil in and of itself is dangerous and expensive, so there aren't many companies willing to jump in and compete with those already established. Because of this, they have us over a barrel. Pun very much intended.

It definitely follows the general rules of supply and demand. Supply curve is shifting to the left, and demand curve is shifting to the right: this means lower output at a higher price. What you're describing is very inelastic demand, which just means that the demand curve isn't very steep: it doesn't affect how the whole thing will shift as a result of a growing society.

Now, the reason the supply curve is so low is because it's artificially manipulated by a collusive cartel operating as a natural monopoly: the kind of thing that's outlawed in most developed nations. But, since it's a bunch of sovereign nations, there's nothing we can do about it, aside from invading, which isn't likely to happen. On the bright side, though, the higher the prices go, the more tempting it is for one of the OPEC members to cheat on their agreement and increase output, which could have very positive ramifications for us...


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May 25, 2008 00:41 |  #37

So has anyone looked into the price of gas over time? I am sure I feel bad for everyone because they have to spend $4 a gallon right now, but honestly its one of the few commodities that hasn't even kept up with inflation. You won't hear about that in the news though because people would much rather just cry about how its expensive to drive their new SUV around. http://www.energy.ca.g​ov …ytimes_gasoline​_price.jpg (external link)
I am with my dad on this one. I hope gas goes up to $10 a gallon really soon because it won't change how I drive very much, but it will just about enough to cut down on traffic so that I enjoy the trips more.

You want something over priced? If you want camera gear here you have to pay about a 100% markup over retal so that someone will drive to UAE to pick it up for you .


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May 25, 2008 00:56 |  #38

I dunno wtf I was thinking when I said it doesn't follow the laws of supply & demand. Other than that opening statement, the rest of my post is absolutely true. It's not something we can simply stop demanding (needing) because our entire infrastructure is based on having gasoline. We do not have public transportation in the rural areas. I live in a college town...a state college at that...and there are only a few public buses. None of them come out this way and I'm only about 5 miles outside town.

In NYC I wouldn't even bother owning a car. It'd be more of a liability than an asset.


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May 25, 2008 00:59 |  #39

Stocky wrote in post #5591151 (external link)
So has anyone looked into the price of gas over time? I am sure I feel bad for everyone because they have to spend $4 a gallon right now, but honestly its one of the few commodities that hasn't even kept up with inflation. You won't hear about that in the news though because people would much rather just cry about how its expensive to drive their new SUV around. http://www.energy.ca.g​ov …ytimes_gasoline​_price.jpg (external link)

Don't be silly. Everyone knows the oil companies are price gouging us, and we need to take all their profits away with a big tax... :/


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May 25, 2008 01:13 as a reply to  @ post 5583777 |  #40

When something is over priced...

When an item is overpriced and if it is not too technically difficult to produce, China will come along with a knock-off that can be used instead of the OEM rip-off and can be sold at a fraction of the price of the OEM model.

As an example there are knock-offs available for the following overpriced equipment:

Stofen and Gary Fong diffusers - a bit of Tupperware that the Chinese have molded at a fraction of the price Stofen and Fong charge...

70-200mm f/4L tripod collars - OEM is far overpriced and China came to the rescue with usable and far les expensive collars...

Lens hoods - Chinese hoods can be had at a fraction of the OEM price. I use a knock-off hood on my 17-55mm f/2.8 IS lens which costs about 15% of the price Canon charges for their model. It fits fine and shades and protects the lens every bit as well as the overpriced Canon unit.

Lens caps - Occasionally China comes across with an improved version which is the case regarding Canon OEM lens caps. The Chinese models are center-pinch which are much easier to put on and take off from a lens which has a lens hood mounted that is the OEM side-pinch cap. I bought a used 300mm f/4L IS lens which had a defective side-pinch OEM lens cap. I replaced all my Canon side-pinch caps with Chinese center-pinch caps for about the price of replacing that one OEM model. Oh yes, my caps also read "Canon" on their front.


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May 25, 2008 12:51 |  #41

Stocky wrote in post #5591151 (external link)
So has anyone looked into the price of gas over time? I am sure I feel bad for everyone because they have to spend $4 a gallon right now, but honestly its one of the few commodities that hasn't even kept up with inflation. You won't hear about that in the news though because people would much rather just cry about how its expensive to drive their new SUV around. http://www.energy.ca.g​ov …ytimes_gasoline​_price.jpg (external link)
I am with my dad on this one. I hope gas goes up to $10 a gallon really soon because it won't change how I drive very much, but it will just about enough to cut down on traffic so that I enjoy the trips more.

Have to smile at you folk over there. Gas (petrol) here is £5.40 per gallon and rising. $10.80 US Equiv.


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May 25, 2008 18:40 |  #42
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Your gallons are 4.5 liters. US gallons are 3.75 liters


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May 25, 2008 19:18 |  #43

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We do not have public transportation in the rural areas. I live in a college town...a state college at that...and there are only a few public buses. None of them come out this way and I'm only about 5 miles outside town.

Things would need to change, that's for sure. But it's not like you would just be left to die out in the countryside. :)




  
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May 26, 2008 02:45 |  #44

For me.... lens hoods for 300 to 600mm lenses. Some frickin piece of carbon costing between $400 and $600 is "a bit" overpriced... at least for me.
For this much of money, I can get for example almost whole kayak, which needs "a bit" more of carbon then some crappy lens hood.
And on the end, everyone are wandering, why we don't buy new ones, and we rather "glue" them together with tape once they break. And because they were saving to get even more profit, these lens hoods break really easy.


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May 26, 2008 03:23 |  #45

Heck yeah man I'd be duct taping the crap out of it too. Especially since you know the new one would break as well.


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