MPowered Goldmember  1,476 posts Joined Oct 2007 More info | May 23, 2008 13:54 | #1 Right now I'm using a 650 Watt Photoflex with a 3' Octodome as my primary, and if my buddy comes along he brings his AB 1600's w/ a Beauty Dish. Canon 5D Mark III | EF 24-70 f/ 2.8 L II
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b00ty Senior Member  473 posts Joined Jun 2006 Location: Seattle, WA, USA More info | May 23, 2008 17:56 | #2 That's a tall order for any flash I would imagine. Of course it matters on how harsh the sun is at that particular moment and placement of the flash--also the use of light modifiers. Maybe more details? -Phil McGuire
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May 24, 2008 11:58 | #3 Heres what I get with my current setup
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airfrogusmc I'm a chimper. There I said it... More info | May 24, 2008 12:01 | #4 M Powered wrote in post #5583144  Right now I'm using a 650 Watt Photoflex with a 3' Octodome as my primary, and if my buddy comes along he brings his AB 1600's w/ a Beauty Dish. Ideally I want to be at F16-18 w/ a 4 Stop ND filter. How much juice do you think I'll need? Is it time to get the Zeus 1500-2500? Shoot on an overcast day or really early of late
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tim Light Bringer  51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | May 24, 2008 19:02 | #5 It looks to me like you have plenty of light, but it's not distributed well. The background's pretty dark, if you add more light you'll just have a darker background, which would be worse IMHO. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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JakPot Senior Member 826 posts Joined Mar 2006 Location: 80203 More info | May 24, 2008 19:44 | #6 tim wrote in post #5589671 It looks to me like you have plenty of light, but it's not distributed well. The background's pretty dark, if you add more light you'll just have a darker background, which would be worse IMHO. i agree, i'd also clone out the reflections of light on her chest on that shot.. it's detracts from the shot and leads my eye straight there (not that it's a bad thing, but you get my point :lol
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CurtisN Master Flasher  19,129 posts Likes: 11 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Northern Illinois, US More info | May 24, 2008 20:00 | #7 M Powered wrote in post #5583144 Ideally I want to be at F16-18 w/ a 4 Stop ND filter. Before I go to the trouble of calculating what you'll need, can you tell us why you think you need to shoot at that aperture and then block 94% of the light with a filter? "If you're not having fun, your pictures will reflect that." - Joe McNally
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May 25, 2008 01:58 | #8 Curtis N wrote in post #5589988 Before I go to the trouble of calculating what you'll need, can you tell us why you think you need to shoot at that aperture and then block 94% of the light with a filter? Because I want something like this...
I could drop the ND filter and just stop it down some more, but I don't want IQ to suffer. Canon 5D Mark III | EF 24-70 f/ 2.8 L II
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May 25, 2008 02:01 | #9 tim wrote in post #5589671 It looks to me like you have plenty of light, but it's not distributed well. The background's pretty dark, if you add more light you'll just have a darker background, which would be worse IMHO. Its not for the same particular shot, see photo example above. I plan on doing some desert shoots this summer. Canon 5D Mark III | EF 24-70 f/ 2.8 L II
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May 25, 2008 02:01 | #10 JakPot wrote in post #5589884 i agree, i'd also clone out the reflections of light on her chest on that shot.. it's detracts from the shot and leads my eye straight there (not that it's a bad thing, but you get my point :lol  I left those there, I think it adds to the picture Canon 5D Mark III | EF 24-70 f/ 2.8 L II
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turbodude Goldmember  2,707 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2006 Location: Las Vegas BABY!!! More info | May 25, 2008 02:07 | #11 M Powered wrote in post #5591342 Because I want something like this...
I could drop the ND filter and just stop it down some more, but I don't want IQ to suffer.
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May 25, 2008 02:11 | #12 turbodude wrote in post #5591359 im fairly sure that one light cam right eye level. i think you can acheive this with your photoflex. also i beleive a ND filter may degrade picture quality too. Depends on the weather, if its partially overcast and the sun isn't too harsh; no problem. On bright summer days; no way in hell. Canon 5D Mark III | EF 24-70 f/ 2.8 L II
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turbodude Goldmember 2,707 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2006 Location: Las Vegas BABY!!! More info | May 25, 2008 02:14 | #13 M Powered wrote in post #5591372 Depends on the weather, if its partially overcast and the sun isn't too harsh; no problem. On bright summer days; no way in hell. then shoot later in the day... i dont think you will be able to acheive the look in that picture with two strobes. or sell yours in favor for one bigger unit. My Twitter: http://twitter.com/powersimagery
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May 25, 2008 02:19 | #14 turbodude wrote in post #5591380 then shoot later in the day... i dont think you will be able to acheive the look in that picture with two strobes. or sell yours in favor for one bigger unit. Yea, I vote for the later option; get a bigger unit... Canon 5D Mark III | EF 24-70 f/ 2.8 L II
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turbodude Goldmember 2,707 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2006 Location: Las Vegas BABY!!! More info | May 25, 2008 02:27 | #15 M Powered wrote in post #5591388 Yea, I vote for the later option; get a bigger unit... i would suggest a XL3200. it has a 1/4 power option. so you can you use it as a XL800 when you need less power indoors. i am planning on buying one. and a beauty dish, that shot looks like it was shot with one or a feathered softbox My Twitter: http://twitter.com/powersimagery
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