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How much can be done with speedlights?

 
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May 24, 2008 12:22 |  #1

I'm interested in taking candid-style glamour photography. I don't really know the best way to describe what I'm talking about but the photos usually have a rougher touch to them. You won't see any heavy skin smoothing or other air brushing in the photos that I'm talking about. They are usually in black and white and not usually taken in studio. I hope that describes what I'm talking about okay.

For this type of photography, could I get away with using speedlites? I don't really want to get into studio quite yet. I have one 430EX flash right now and a transmitter. I'm thinking about picking up a 2nd, 530EX flash. Will this give me more options when it comes to lighting? Can a lot of good lighting be done with just two lights and maybe the sun as well?




  
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May 24, 2008 12:24 |  #2

http://www.strobist.bl​ogspot.com/ (external link)

Practically everything you'd ever want to know about shooting with speedlights...


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May 24, 2008 13:09 |  #3

http://www.flickr.com/​photos/seanmcfoto/2446​051641/ (external link)

A lot.




  
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May 24, 2008 16:35 |  #4

Nice. All those were just done with speedlite style flashes? That gives me a lot more confidence to start exploring what I can do with these things! I still need to invest in some umbrellas or something though.




  
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May 24, 2008 17:02 |  #5

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May 24, 2008 17:31 |  #6

I use speedlights with umbrellas and such as well. A 580exII at 1/1 output at about 10-15 feet gives me ISO100, 1/200 sync, at f/11. With a diffuser or small umbrella its around f/5.6. That's not bad. I don't mind this for smaller portrait shoots, fill lights, etc...

For a larger full body portrait shoot with backdrops etc..., stronger lights would come in much more useful and offer greater flexibility.

For glamor, you might want to think about a 580exII and a Ray Flash ringlight. http://www.expoimaging​.net …=15&productname​=Ray_Flash (external link)

That would be relatively inexpensive and very portable. At relatively small distances (closer than 25 feet from the model), this would work very well. You could even remote control the 430 as an accent, hair, or background fill light.

I totally use speedlights for many things. I've shot any product work ive done with speedlights.


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May 24, 2008 18:01 |  #7

Gentleman Villain wrote in post #5589404 (external link)
Strobist shooters are a dime a dozen nowadays and the multiple speedlite look is kinda tired.

Like the same a multiple studio strobe look is getting kinda tired?

I think not.




  
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May 24, 2008 18:13 |  #8

:) Imagine how much we could make if we took .02cs for collection!




  
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May 24, 2008 18:16 |  #9

Lights only look like what you make them to be.

Knowing how to use them, and then using what you need to achieve your results will never be "old" or "tired." The key is knowing when to light, and when not to light! People who copy other's styles, or have a self imposed "look" that they repeat over and and over and over again might get "tired"...but knowing how to use lights properly will never tire.


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May 24, 2008 18:21 |  #10

Hear hear. Assessing lighting and if needed, artificial lighting to compliment the subject is an intensely individual thing. Can make it look flat, or vibrant, scary or beautiful




  
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May 26, 2008 04:44 |  #11

I have a 550, 580, and 2 sunpack 622.and I think they are just not as good as full set-ups..

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May 26, 2008 05:15 |  #12

Nothing comes close to the power and control of a full rig, just try and move it all in one small package :D




  
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May 26, 2008 05:29 |  #13

Blue S2 wrote in post #5589324 (external link)
At relatively small distances (closer than 25 feet from the model), this would work very well. .

This really amused me. Closer than 25 feet from the model is a relatively small distance? I've never been that far away from a model in my life (in a studio that is). Do you need a walkie-talkie to communicate with her:D




  
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May 26, 2008 06:58 |  #14

Oh, Im coming from "On-location" mentallity. In a studio I would figure someone would be using a normal strobe head rig or something. I wouldn't want a studio setup for people with speedlights. Ide rather have more juice.

On location though...speedlights are great! And on location sometimes you can get more than 25' .... not often...but some situations do arise.


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May 26, 2008 09:40 |  #15

Blue S2 wrote in post #5589324 (external link)
For glamor, you might want to think about a 580exII and a Ray Flash ringlight. http://www.expoimaging​.net …=15&productname​=Ray_Flash (external link)

That would be relatively inexpensive and very portable. At relatively small distances (closer than 25 feet from the model), this would work very well. You could even remote control the 430 as an accent, hair, or background fill light.

I totally use speedlights for many things. I've shot any product work ive done with speedlights.

I can't find any testshots of the Ray Ringflash on the net, does anybody have a link where i can find a test or some testshots?


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