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May 24, 2008 15:46 |  #1

I guess some of you have already seen this rumour:

According to Canon Japan Internas the EOS 50D comes in spring, 2009, exactly on the 05th April, 2009, worldwide presented for the PMA 09 in Wellington, New Zealand. Canon Japan makes this deliberate, because a narrow connection of Japan by New Zealand exists. 50D will have 12 chips MPix of 450D, she offers ISO values to 3200 really as well as by (known) trick to ISO 6400, 3-inch monitor and is sealed even stronger than 40D. It is placed between 5D MKII and 450D (which is removed shortly after from 500D). There will not be 3000D, by the way, because Canon it for holds not possibly to offer a reasonable new-developed DSLR in the prize segment less than 450D (which will cost till then for about 400 € as a set). However, the 50D will have otherwise an as big resemblance to 40D like it had 30D with 20D. The next real generation jump (signal processor, sensor etc.) comes with 60D, presumably in fall 2010. The two-digit remain, in any case, an APS C cameras. The thought is interesting that Canon develops a "3D", the body of 1D has reminded, indeed, rather of the features (MP, speed) of 5D MkII. This 3D closes that (also in price) gap between 5D MkII (approx. $ 3500,-) and 1d MkIII (approx. $ 4500,-). Then the line-up looks like: 450D (500D), 50D, 5DMkII, 3D, 1DMkIII, 1DsMkIII. Suitably to the 50D (in the set) there comes a successor of the USM IS 17-85, the USM IS 16-105. In addition, Canon works on a megazoom lens (as it were to a successor of the 28-300 L), however, nothing has still trickled through precise. And an USM 1.4/35 should complement the L 1.4/35 USM as a "Mainstream-Prime".

Not sure it tells us much. From here: http://pma-rumours.blogspot.com/s​earch/label/Canon%2050​D (external link)




  
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May 24, 2008 18:59 |  #2

This is an interesting one, so 50D is going to be a little update, once 1DmkIV comes(after the 3 year cycle), time for new technology implementation? However, this rumor contradicts with the Rebel XS/1000D leaked in DPP...




  
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May 25, 2008 00:39 |  #3

I have to say just reading the expected positioning of the 5D MK II and the 3D, that sounds like complete speculation by someone who has even less of a clue than the rest of us. There's no reason for two full frame bodies to fit in between $3500 and 4500... it would make far more sense for a 5D MK II to be positioned at $2k and the 3D to be positioned at $3500.


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May 25, 2008 17:20 |  #4

the 1d replacement cycle is 3 years? really?




  
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May 26, 2008 18:47 as a reply to  @ Dan Lorth's post |  #5

i reckon that i could have made up a better allegedly translated pile of stew than that.


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May 27, 2008 09:32 |  #6

Curious .... rumors say that a new Canon 1000 it´s coming in the low segment ...


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May 27, 2008 19:05 |  #7

Well, never expected much from the 50D much like the 20D to 30D.


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May 28, 2008 05:15 as a reply to  @ _aravena's post |  #8

Wellignton, New Zealand........mmmmm sure




  
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May 28, 2008 06:07 |  #9

Yeah anything that happens there is immediately discredited. :D


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Jun 02, 2008 18:57 |  #10

Load of rubbish that.

A model below the 450D is a given IMO. It will be designed and built to be cheap to produce. The 400D isn't, yet has to sell low due to being superceded.

The 450D's price will mean the 50D will move slightly upmarket and the spec will be higher.

5D-II will be under $2500.

A cheap 35/1.4 is never going to happen. A revised f2.0 model (maybe 1.8 ) is possible, but 1.4 is out of the question. It'll be too expensive to replace the current f2.0 version and no way will Canon want three 35mm primes in the range and rightly so.


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Jun 09, 2008 12:31 |  #11

Sprout Crumble wrote in post #5645697 (external link)
Load of rubbish that.

A model below the 450D is a given IMO. It will be designed and built to be cheap to produce. The 400D isn't, yet has to sell low due to being superceded.

I highly doubt that. Canon just changed the rebel series from CF to SD
cards simply because the rebel is designed to be a stepup camera for
everyone who owns a compact camera (of which 95% have SD cards).

Good compact cameras are in the 250-350$ range and there is
simply no market for a similar priced dslr. Dslrs are more expensive
to make than compact cameras, the volumes are lower and the
lesser featureset (to compete in price) and effort to develop such a
camera does not seem to be worth the effort.

Many people also forget that cameras inherently become cheaper
by themselves. This is because the electronic components (circuts,
io-chips, sensors) become cheaper thanks to mass production. It
makes the development of a sub rebel dslr series even more dubious.

Lets not forget that camea manufactuers are companies that want
to make money with their products and especialy the big ones
will do so by acting very conservative. While we dream of many
assets and features that could be made, it rarely happens.

What we can expect is thate current dslr camera features become
cheaper and that the overall price leves will constantly drop.




  
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Jun 10, 2008 07:00 |  #12

fr3d wrote in post #5689833 (external link)
I highly doubt that. Canon just changed the rebel series from CF to SD
cards simply because the rebel is designed to be a stepup camera for
everyone who owns a compact camera (of which 95% have SD cards).

Good compact cameras are in the 250-350$ range and there is
simply no market for a similar priced dslr. Dslrs are more expensive
to make than compact cameras, the volumes are lower and the
lesser featureset (to compete in price) and effort to develop such a
camera does not seem to be worth the effort.

Many people also forget that cameras inherently become cheaper
by themselves. This is because the electronic components (circuts,
io-chips, sensors) become cheaper thanks to mass production. It
makes the development of a sub rebel dslr series even more dubious.

Lets not forget that camea manufactuers are companies that want
to make money with their products and especialy the big ones
will do so by acting very conservative. While we dream of many
assets and features that could be made, it rarely happens.

What we can expect is thate current dslr camera features become
cheaper and that the overall price leves will constantly drop.

If only you said you'd eat your hat if you were wrong! :)


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Jun 10, 2008 07:25 |  #13

AdamJL wrote in post #5694722 (external link)
If only you said you'd eat your hat if you were wrong! :)

I have no hat sorry. If you want to make a smart prediction about the
future it is much better to try to think like a bussiness company and
not get drawn into the wishful thinking of the average technology enthusiast.




  
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Jun 10, 2008 08:08 |  #14

Sprout Crumble wrote in post #5645697 (external link)
Load of rubbish that.

...A cheap 35/1.4 is never going to happen. A revised f2.0 model (maybe 1.8 ) is possible, but 1.4 is out of the question. It'll be too expensive to replace the current f2.0 version and no way will Canon want three 35mm primes in the range and rightly so.

Taking into account the rough translation, I would bet the 35 would be an EF-s, as the 16-105 update of the 17-85 didn't have that indicated.


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Jun 10, 2008 18:11 |  #15

AdamJL wrote in post #5694722 (external link)
If only you said you'd eat your hat if you were wrong! :)

:lol:


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