Yes contrast is very manageable in PP.
Linarms, how do you like your Lightroom software?
Chuck
freebird Goldmember 1,348 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2006 Location: Iowa More info | Yes contrast is very manageable in PP.
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Dorman Goldmember 4,661 posts Joined Feb 2006 Location: Halifax, NS More info | May 26, 2008 08:06 | #17 freebird wrote in post #5597607 Yes contrast is very manageable in PP. Linarms, how do you like your Lightroom software? Chuck I'm not Linarms, but I am a working photographer who uses Lightroom. I can honestly say that LR changed my entire workflow and really is a valuable tool - it is a file management system, great for organizing, culling, batch processing (color correcting, contrast, saturation), and then fine tuning the processing of individual images. You can instantly create "virtual copies" of files and display several edited images side by side to see what you like best. If I get things right in camera I very rarely even need to go into photoshop anymore. I highly recommend checking out LR!
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freebird Goldmember 1,348 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2006 Location: Iowa More info | Thank you for you reply. CS2 is what I'm using now, but heard lots of good things about Lightroom. Is Vista a issue at all?
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Dorman Goldmember 4,661 posts Joined Feb 2006 Location: Halifax, NS More info | May 26, 2008 08:19 | #19 No, I run XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop and it works fine on both. There is a new version of LR available as a beta/testing download, you could try it out for free that way.
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packpe89 Senior Member 733 posts Likes: 1 Joined May 2007 Location: North Carolina More info | May 26, 2008 08:22 | #20 I think my 17-55 was marinally sharper, while my 17-40 had slightly better color and contrast. AF is very similiar and of course the 17-40 has better build. I sold the 17-40 when I got the 17-55, sold it when I got a 1d2. If you are going to stick with cropped sensors, I'd get the 17-55, just for the extra 15mm, 2.8 and IS. If you have any thoughts on going FF (or 1.3), get the 17-40, I may look to get another one soon. Canon 5D, 7D, 100-300F4, 200f2.8L, 17-40L, 50f1.4, 85f1.8, 15-85EF-S , Sigma 24-70f2.8, A couple of flashes, strobes and stuff.
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | May 26, 2008 08:23 | #21 gcogger wrote in post #5597440 The problem I find with this site, along with most other review sites, is that they generally show results for things like sharpness, chromatic abberation etc. but never discuss the colour and contrast. Yes, they provide sample shots but my own experience tells me that, in order to compare colour/contrast, you need to take exactly the same shot under exactly the same lighting. It would also be useful if they discussed things like focussing speed and accuracy, and how the focussing performs in poor lighting. =]I think my 17-55 was marinally sharper, while my 17-40 had slightly better color and contrast. "My A560 give much better sharpness and saturation and contrast than my 40D does!" You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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lkrms "stupidly long verbal diarrhoea" 4,558 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jun 2006 Location: Newcastle, Australia More info | May 26, 2008 08:44 | #22 I'm loving Lightroom. Only just made the switch from Bridge + ACR. It really is a much smarter tool in every possible way. Luke
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LarryWeinman Goldmember 1,438 posts Likes: 66 Joined Jul 2006 More info | May 26, 2008 08:47 | #23 I sold my 17-40 after I got my 17-55. The 17-55 offers more flexibility and I found that my results were consistantly better with that lens. 7D Mark II 6D 100mm f 2.8 macro 180mm f 3.5 macro, MP-E-65 300mm f 2.8 500mm f4 Tokina 10-17mm fisheye 10-22mm 17-55mm 24-105mm 70-300mm 70-200 f 2.8 Mk II 100-400mm Mk II 1.4 TCIII 2X TCIII 580EX II 430 EX II MT 24 EX Sigma 150-600
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freebird Goldmember 1,348 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2006 Location: Iowa More info | Sounds good Wilt. I will test on a 30D soon. May take some time, several days, but check back. Will try to find a good subject and see how it goes, it should be interesting.
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | May 26, 2008 08:54 | #25 freebird wrote in post #5597786 Sounds good Wilt. I will test on a 30D soon. May take some time, several days, but check back. Will try to find a good subject and see how it goes, it should be interesting. What F stop do you wanna see, F4, F8? Chuck Thanks for volunteering to do this comparison, Chuck! I am tired of hearing about 'L' having 'color and saturation' advantage without substantiation of the claim. To settle the arguments it might be good to see images at/near wide open (f/4) and also at/near performance peak f/stop (f/8) You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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Thanks for all the replies. I will be looking forward to the comparison test shots. 40D--30D --70-300L--24-70L--100 f/2--50 1.8
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Dorman Goldmember 4,661 posts Joined Feb 2006 Location: Halifax, NS More info | May 26, 2008 12:20 | #27 The only other lens to really consider would be the 16-35 F/2.8 L MKII, expensive and short but it will give you the 17-40 color/contrast in an F/2.8 package.
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edrader "I am not the final word" More info | May 26, 2008 12:25 | #28 linarms wrote in post #5596080 I often use my 17-55 at f/2.8 and have been nothing but pleased with its sharpness and rendition. Corner sharpness might be a little better with the 17-40 since it's a full-frame optic and you're shooting crop. Colour balance might be a little different, but my lenses are all a little different in that regard. Good PP workflow deals with that ... Hopefully someone with sample shots can help you out ... i'd say f4 and below the 17-55 will be noticeably sharper but the 17-40L has superior color and contrast. http://instagram.com/edraderphotography/
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Basically, for the things I plan on shooting, 2.8 really is a must. As much as I would like the 16-35, I'm not ready to spend that much. 40D--30D --70-300L--24-70L--100 f/2--50 1.8
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bacchanal Cream of the Crop 5,284 posts Likes: 22 Joined Jan 2007 Location: Fort Wayne, IN More info | I've compared my 17-55 to my 35L (don't have a 17-40), same shot, minutes apart, and the 35L does have slightly better color and contrast. That said, the 17-55 is very sharp wide open and is one of the fastest focusing lenses that I've ever used.
1/200 f/2.8 ISO100 - (full size - http://photos.fahrenheit128.com/img/v0/p122558803.jpg
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