sgogula Senior Member 786 posts Likes: 5 Joined Aug 2007 Location: Dallas, TX More info | May 27, 2008 21:38 | #1 Hi, Canon 5D III | Canon 24-70 L II | Canon 50D | Canon 70-200 2.8 L IS II | Sigma 17-50 OS | Canon 50mm f1.8 II | 580,430 EX II Speedlite
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SkipD Cream of the Crop  20,476 posts Likes: 165 Joined Dec 2002 Location: Southeastern WI, USA More info | May 27, 2008 21:47 | #2 sgogula wrote in post #5608485  Hi, I was experimenting with 430 EX shooting portraits at indoors but all the pictures have dark shadows in the background. Is there any technique to avoid shadows? I attached 3X5 white card to my flash to bounce the ceiling as advised by Curtis in one of the forum. When I keep the camera horizontal and flash on top of the camera, I do not see shadows but If I turn the camera to vertical, shadows appear in the picture. The solution for "portrait position" (vertical orientation of the camera) shooting with flash is to use a flash bracket that will hold the flash source directly over the lens regardless of the camera position. Skip Douglas
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May 27, 2008 21:56 | #3 Here is my flash setup:  HOSTED PHOTO please log in to view hosted photos in full size.  HOSTED PHOTO please log in to view hosted photos in full size. Canon 5D III | Canon 24-70 L II | Canon 50D | Canon 70-200 2.8 L IS II | Sigma 17-50 OS | Canon 50mm f1.8 II | 580,430 EX II Speedlite
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-MasterChief- - B E L I E V E -  3,188 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2006 Location: Requiem More info | May 27, 2008 21:58 | #4 ditto on what Skip said. get a flash bracket so your flash is always orientated on the top of your camera and not to the side when you turn and do portrait shots.
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Is there any other alternative to flash bracket? like tiltiing the flash head to 45 degrees or something like that. Canon 5D III | Canon 24-70 L II | Canon 50D | Canon 70-200 2.8 L IS II | Sigma 17-50 OS | Canon 50mm f1.8 II | 580,430 EX II Speedlite
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elysium "full of stupid banter"  11,619 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Harrow/London/UK/GB/That Part Of The World/Next To France More info | May 28, 2008 03:53 | #7 sgogula wrote in post #5608666 Is there any other alternative to flash bracket? like tiltiing the flash head to 45 degrees or something like that. Sadly not, the harsh shadows will still be there. Tricky and can be time consuming. Just get yourself that flash bracket, loads on eBay. Everyday, a programmer finds a way of creating an idiotproof program. Everyday, the universe spits out another idiot.....So far, the universe if winning
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ALaS Goldmember  2,205 posts Likes: 8 Joined Aug 2007 More info | May 28, 2008 04:02 | #8 index cards are your friend. I use a red drug free wristband as my rubber band. It's a lot cooler. Best Regards,
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tim Light Bringer  51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | May 28, 2008 04:08 | #9 Try bouncing off a wall instead of the ceiling. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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KonradZebracki Member  53 posts Joined Mar 2007 Location: Tilburg - Holland More info | May 28, 2008 04:25 | #10 just buy a stroboframe cameraflip bracket and a lumiquest 80-20... The best way to avoid shadows indoor.  A picture i shot whit this combination:  40D | 10-17 | 17-50 | 50 | 70-200 | 85
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Thanks for all your replies. Canon 5D III | Canon 24-70 L II | Canon 50D | Canon 70-200 2.8 L IS II | Sigma 17-50 OS | Canon 50mm f1.8 II | 580,430 EX II Speedlite
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elysium "full of stupid banter" 11,619 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Harrow/London/UK/GB/That Part Of The World/Next To France More info | May 28, 2008 09:59 | #12 Looks like it will do the trick. You will need a flash cord to go from the hotshoe to the base of the flash. Be sure to get an ETTL cable. Everyday, a programmer finds a way of creating an idiotproof program. Everyday, the universe spits out another idiot.....So far, the universe if winning
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PacAce Cream of the Crop  26,900 posts Likes: 40 Joined Feb 2003 Location: Keystone State, USA More info | May 28, 2008 10:16 | #13 Remove the white bounce card (but still point the flash towards the ceiling) and see if you like that result better. At least you won't get the shadows you're complaining about. ...Leo
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May 28, 2008 10:40 | #14 PacAce wrote in post #5611177 Remove the white bounce card (but still point the flash towards the ceiling) and see if you like that result better. At least you won't get the shadows you're complaining about.  this is music to my ears..let me try this tonight before ordering flash bracket. Canon 5D III | Canon 24-70 L II | Canon 50D | Canon 70-200 2.8 L IS II | Sigma 17-50 OS | Canon 50mm f1.8 II | 580,430 EX II Speedlite
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Titus213 Cream of the Crop  More info | May 28, 2008 11:12 | #15 sgogula wrote in post #5611029 Thanks for all your replies. Is this flash bracket good? do I need anything with this? I am not sure if need anything to connect between the camera hotshoe and flash.Try to visualize where your flash will end up and how the card/diffuser is oriented with this bracket to see if it will accomplish what you want. Dave
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