Yep, I bought a couple at that time. 
Rudi Goldmember 3,751 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2002 Location: Australia More info | Aug 30, 2008 21:25 | #46 Yep, I bought a couple at that time. • Wedding Photographer - Sydney and Wollongong
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davo_robbo Goldmember 1,595 posts Likes: 2 Joined May 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia More info | Aug 30, 2008 21:30 | #47 how powerful are the 383's in comparison to the 580? 5Dc | 24LII/45 TS/50L/85 Sigma
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Rudi Goldmember 3,751 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2002 Location: Australia More info | Aug 30, 2008 21:34 | #48 davo_robbo wrote in post #6211656 how powerful are the 383's in comparison to the 580? i want another 2 lights to work with and im wondering if im going to be dissapointed or not lol.. This has been answered in every thread about the 383 - they're the same power, just don't have a zoom head! Not an issue of you're going to be firing them into an umbrella. • Wedding Photographer - Sydney and Wollongong
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davo_robbo Goldmember 1,595 posts Likes: 2 Joined May 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia More info | Aug 30, 2008 21:52 | #49 my mistake! 5Dc | 24LII/45 TS/50L/85 Sigma
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Franko515 "doped up on pills" 2,478 posts Joined May 2006 Location: Crete, Illinois More info | Aug 30, 2008 21:58 | #50 Rudi wrote in post #6211668 This has been answered in every thread about the 383 - they're the same power, just don't have a zoom head! Not an issue of you're going to be firing them into an umbrella. Actually this could be a problem if firing into an umbrella. Light, composition, shooting technique matter to the end quality most. -Pekka
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Rudi Goldmember 3,751 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2002 Location: Australia More info | Aug 30, 2008 21:59 | #51 Franko, you will find that it's hard to spill the light past an umbrella with a 35mm-wide beam. And the solution is simple - much simpler than if you had too-narrow a beam. • Wedding Photographer - Sydney and Wollongong
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Rudi Goldmember 3,751 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2002 Location: Australia More info | Aug 30, 2008 22:01 | #52 No prob - most people can't see past the 37m Guide No, but don't realize that it's at 35mm coverage. The 580 EX has a 58m GN, but it's at 105mm coverage. • Wedding Photographer - Sydney and Wollongong
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Franko515 "doped up on pills" 2,478 posts Joined May 2006 Location: Crete, Illinois More info | Aug 30, 2008 22:07 | #53 Rudi wrote in post #6211771 Franko, you will find that it's hard to spill the light past an umbrella with a 35mm-wide beam. And the solution is simple - much simpler than if you had too-narrow a beam. Hard, but not impossible (imagine a 30 something inch umbrella). Just putting that info out there just in case anyone wonders. Your right the solution is rather simple, but to have a solution there must be a problem Light, composition, shooting technique matter to the end quality most. -Pekka
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Spazzmodicus Senior Member 993 posts Joined Jan 2008 Location: Louisville, Kentucky (Southern Indiana actually) More info | Personally, I just spend a tad more and get Canon flash units that can work with each other or a ST-E2. They work in sunlight....just not reliably...heh heh. They zoom AND swivel, and are plentiful in supply.
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Rudi Goldmember 3,751 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2002 Location: Australia More info | Aug 30, 2008 22:12 | #55 Franko515 wrote in post #6211805 Your right the solution is rather simple, but to have a solution there must be a problem ![]() For it to be a problem, there must be no solution. Is there's a solution, it must only be an obstacle. • Wedding Photographer - Sydney and Wollongong
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Franko515 "doped up on pills" 2,478 posts Joined May 2006 Location: Crete, Illinois More info | Aug 30, 2008 22:13 | #56 Spazzmodicus wrote in post #6211808 Personally, I just spend a tad more and get Canon flash units that can work with each other or a ST-E2. They work in sunlight....just not reliably...heh heh. They zoom AND swivel, and are plentiful in supply. Just my preference though.... ![]() No doubt good flashes with nice features, but for the budget minded photographer you could get 2 383s, adapters, umbrellas and lightstands for the price of 1 Canon flash and thats for the older model Canons (i.e. 430ex) Light, composition, shooting technique matter to the end quality most. -Pekka
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Rudi Goldmember 3,751 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2002 Location: Australia More info | Aug 30, 2008 22:13 | #57 Spazzmodicus wrote in post #6211808 Personally, I just spend a tad more and get Canon flash units that can work with each other or a ST-E2. They work in sunlight....just not reliably...heh heh. They zoom AND swivel, and are plentiful in supply. Just my preference though.... ![]() I'd rather have FOUR Sunpaks than only one 580EXII for my off-camera work... • Wedding Photographer - Sydney and Wollongong
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Franko515 "doped up on pills" 2,478 posts Joined May 2006 Location: Crete, Illinois More info | Aug 30, 2008 22:15 | #58 Rudi wrote in post #6211837 For it to be a problem, there must be no solution. Is there's a solution, it must only be an obstacle. ![]() LMAO Light, composition, shooting technique matter to the end quality most. -Pekka
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Spazzmodicus Senior Member 993 posts Joined Jan 2008 Location: Louisville, Kentucky (Southern Indiana actually) More info | Aug 30, 2008 22:25 | #59 Franko515 wrote in post #6211841 No doubt good flashes with nice features, but for the budget minded photographer you could get 2 383s, adapters, umbrellas and lightstands for the price of 1 Canon flash and thats for the older model Canons (i.e. 430ex) Forgot to mention I like ETTL too....one of the main reasons I stick with Canon. I've dropped them, kicked them, but never drop kicked them....heh heh.
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Franko515 "doped up on pills" 2,478 posts Joined May 2006 Location: Crete, Illinois More info | Aug 30, 2008 22:31 | #60 Spazzmodicus wrote in post #6211893 Forgot to mention I like ETTL too....one of the main reasons I stick with Canon. I've dropped them, kicked them, but never drop kicked them....heh heh. Oh yeah, I love ETTL thats why I bought 3 580EX II's Light, composition, shooting technique matter to the end quality most. -Pekka
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