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May 31, 2008 22:16 |  #136

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I just thought that it might work out cheaper than buying an RX kit (but who am I kidding, I want an RX kit, too! :D).

BTW, with the exception of the D-Lite (which you can get separately), this is the best, most comprehensive Elinchrom catalogue that I have managed to find on their website: http://www.elinchrom.c​om …o%20Face/Facing​RightE.pdf (external link)

I believe the wired remote still only works with the RX lights as they alone have the circuitry that allows the settings to be remotely altered. One plus of the skyport RX option is that the receivers don't use batteries as they are powered from the RX light so there is no need to worry about charging them up or the battery levels getting low.




  
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May 31, 2008 22:17 |  #137

They do have a BX/FX remote AFAIK...


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May 31, 2008 22:24 |  #138

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They do have a BX/FX remote AFAIK...

Can you post a link to where you have seen this please as I've never heard of them in years of shooting with Elinchrom.

I really can't see how they would work as all there is on the back of the FX/BX lights is a power socket and a sync socket - no more complex interface like there is on the RX.




  
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May 31, 2008 22:25 |  #139

Hrmmm.... You're right! I just looked, and cannot see it anywhere. Oh well, I was going to pony up for the RX set anyway... eventually. :)


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Jun 01, 2008 02:40 |  #140

The remote for the Elinchrom is a simple radio trigger it's used for trigger the strobe instead of a hot shoe and is used in conjunction with a lightmeter.

This said the only real radio option for Elinchroms is the RX series, but you have to be aware of it's limitations. The best way to control the RX series remotes is via a PC. Whilst the hot shoe trigger works, you don't have the fine granular control over the individual heads. All you have on a hotshoe trigger is a -/+ button to control power.

This said I wouldn't give up my RX remotes.


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Jun 01, 2008 18:18 |  #141

Geez, why do you choose anything that you buy? Simple it does what you want it to do, you can afford it, and (very important) YOU like it! So buy what turns you on within your price range.
If fighting the sun is your issue why not buy a couple of 1200ws battery powered (profoto or Elinca) jobs? That should do it. ???




  
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Jun 03, 2008 02:22 |  #142

Another thing to realize is that you don't need to purchase very expensive battery powered packs for location shooting. A Profoto Acute 1200/2400 (or other pack and head system) can be powered by a Tronix or V2 in the field at a much lower cost and work great as a A/C studio setup as well.


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Jun 03, 2008 02:31 |  #143

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Another thing to realize is that you don't need to purchase very expensive battery powered packs for location shooting. A Profoto Acute 1200/2400 (or other pack and head system) can be powered by a Tronix or V2 in the field at a much lower cost and work great as a A/C studio setup as well.

At 2400ws the poor V2 will be drained in about 100 shots.


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Jun 03, 2008 23:16 |  #144

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At 2400ws the poor V2 will be drained in about 100 shots.

No quicker than if you had (4) 600 ws strobes to put out the same power. Obviously if you aren't engaging in war with the sun and shooting at lower power you'll get a lot more shots per charge.

I haven't been using my Profoto Acutes outdoors yet but will be going with http://www.innovatroni​x.com …Products%20and%​20Services (external link)


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I can't say it is any better than the V2 but at least it doesn't come in that orange bag and since Robert (TMRDesign) has the V2 we can measurebate the two units against each other and see how they compare. Previous reviews I've seen of the V2/Tronix used the older Tronix model.


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Jun 03, 2008 23:37 |  #145

with the v2 being 299, and the tronix being 389, why are you picking the tronix? i have a tronix that i bought a few years ago, and this sucker gets used at least 3 times a week and its been flawless.


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Jun 04, 2008 00:34 |  #146

A gut feeling that the Tronix is going to be the better unit, the ability to do a good comparison and post with Robert about the relative merits of each unit, and the fact that I prefer the way the Tronix looks in comparison to the V2.

I'm glad to hear that your Tronix is working well under continuous operation. Based on your experience would you pay the extra $90 to buy a Tronix over the V2 if you were making the decision today?


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Jun 04, 2008 00:37 |  #147

in all honesty, i'd probably pick the v2 based solely on the shape. the tronix is a big annoying thing to carry around, the v2 looks a bit more portable. however, i don't have the bag for my tronix, i might change my mind if i had that.


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