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Jun 09, 2008 07:23 |  #31

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=Joe'sMom;5686838]If your gonna pay that much $$$ for a p&s---get an slr and learn it.....I love my S3.....and I push it to its limits allot. Do I get disappointed--certainly - Do I want an SLR--OH YEAH! but I don't have the $$$ for it.
The hotshoe is a high point I wish my S3 had but if the images are crap.....what good is it? I have accomplished things with this camera that some professional photogs have said can't be done--I am proud of that and I feel it can't always be about the equipment --- the operator is a huge factor and the real question here is....what are you hoping to do with it?
It's not tiny so it can't just be stuck in a pocket or purse ready to whip out.
It is however capable of producing some incredible photography in my opinion, if you are willing to work at it--my husband swears he's going to attach the weed eater to it so while I am out looking for things to shoot--I can trim the 4 acres we reside upon.
Now ...all that said.... here is an example of something(one) I shot today---this was shot with the "supermacro" feature of my S3 and cropped......also had a circular polarizer on...it was by my pool....realllly bright!

Are you saying the images on the S5 IS are crap?


  
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Jun 09, 2008 21:18 |  #32

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Are you saying the images on the S5 IS are crap?

No Indeed..I am referring to what has been said about it's increased noise levels. This is about making an informed decision and discussion of such--not at a personal level to pluck off anybodies goodies--you have an S5-I have an S3--some others commenting don't have either. Just for fyi--s3's can take a crappy image too.....I was making a point about personal achievement and a goal--let us keep an open mind for general forum discussion.


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Jun 11, 2008 15:04 as a reply to  @ post 5688307 |  #33

I made a statement above about the G9 camera that I feel I should retract! Here is the statement:

" Sounds like a great plan, but I'm starting to have my doubts about there ever being an S6! For this to happen and be a worthwhile upgrade to keep interest in the camera going in a positive direction there would have to be a new sensor in the ""S6" to get rid of some of the noise above ISO 100. I know, a lot of people think iso 200 and higher is great, well I've looked at hundreds of pictures and say it is not! I don't mean a larger sensor such as seen in the G9 either, if you check out its pictures you will not find much of an improvement if any (I don't see any)."

That last sentence I said is not correct!
After viewing a lot of photos today, I can seriously say that the resolution/clarity of the G9 is definitely better than any of the S series cameras within equal ranges (my opinion).
If you don't believe me than do your own test.
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Jun 11, 2008 15:10 |  #34

Well, I sort of suspect Canon announced the S6 yesterday, except it's called the EOS XS in North America and the EOS 1000D elsewhere.


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Jun 11, 2008 19:29 |  #35

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Well, I sort of suspect Canon announced the S6 yesterday, except it's called the EOS XS in North America and the EOS 1000D elsewhere.


It's a DSLR now...?

I don't think you are correct about this...


  
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Jun 11, 2008 19:43 |  #36

The newly announced Rebel XS/1000D is going to be the cheapest ever Canon DSLR. Probably $650 with a 18-55 IS lens. So cheap that it might draw buyers away from the S5 IS or a new S6.


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Jun 11, 2008 21:21 |  #37

I chose the s3 instead of the s5 because I did not see why I needed to spend the extra $$... A year later I still don't. I am happy with my choice and have no regrets.


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Jun 12, 2008 08:27 |  #38

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I chose the s3 instead of the s5 because I did not see why I needed to spend the extra $$... A year later I still don't. I am happy with my choice and have no regrets.


My fiance is picking up the S3 IS soon. I have the S5 IS..he doesn't care about the hotshoe, so he's going with the S3 IS


  
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Jun 12, 2008 14:59 as a reply to  @ SimpleGirl2008's post |  #39

msowsun, I'm not so sure people would be ready to lay down $650.00 for a one of those if it is the awaited "S6", that is starting to tread really close to a used 40 D and some other DSLRs or a new 40D body and your choice of lens. That would take a lot of thought relative to which direction some ones going to go.
Very interesting situation at this point!




  
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Jun 12, 2008 15:14 |  #40

I doubt it'll be $650; the XT body shows on the CanonUSA site as $450; the IS kit isn't $200. It'll probably open at $500-$550 for the kit; the G9 has a MSRP of $500. And the people moving up from a PowerShot aren't going to want to have to buy new memory cards, let alone get a "used" camera.


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Jun 12, 2008 17:03 |  #41

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I doubt it'll be $650; the XT body shows on the CanonUSA site as $450; the IS kit isn't $200. It'll probably open at $500-$550 for the kit; the G9 has a MSRP of $500. And the people moving up from a PowerShot aren't going to want to have to buy new memory cards, let alone get a "used" camera.

What about the people who have recently bought the the XTi or the G9 and other models recently. Isn't this like spitting in there face?
I went out on the Internet but couldn't find a price.
Right now I'm having a hard time figuring out "Why did they pull this", to me it just doesn't make much sense. However they never contacted me for advise, "silly rabbits" (always loved that line from Kill Bill):p

How is some poor guy that just bought a S5 for $350 to $400.00 going to react:evil: !




  
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Jun 12, 2008 17:28 |  #42

The S5 has a 36-432mm lens with Image Stabilization and great video. The Rebel XS/1000D will come with only one 18-55mm IS lens and no video. Totally different cameras for different users. I don't think there really is a comparison.


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Jun 12, 2008 18:16 |  #43

msowsun wrote in post #5711310 (external link)
The S5 has a 36-432mm lens with Image Stabilization and great video. The Rebel XS/1000D will come with only one 18-55mm IS lens and no video. Totally different cameras for different users. I don't think there really is a comparison.

I don't know about that msowsun, granted the S5 is a well rounded package that most people seem to buy, get used to dealing with it's somewhat DSLR type controls then after a year or so upgrade into the DSLR world for the giant leap in image clarity and the huge advantage in iso usability, of course some are completely satisfied with the S5 if it meets there requirements.
I still feel that this (and the current economy) is going to adjust some different camera prices down. However it's somewhat early to predict what the majority will do, but when people are hocking there furniture, jewels, guns, whatever for gas and food money (on the news about an hour ago) it's dam sure that to many people have been living to close to there entire earnings without that rain day savings there parents tried to get across to them.




  
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Jun 12, 2008 18:39 |  #44

msowsun wrote in post #5711310 (external link)
The S5 has a 36-432mm lens with Image Stabilization and great video. The Rebel XS/1000D will come with only one 18-55mm IS lens and no video. Totally different cameras for different users. I don't think there really is a comparison.

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Couldn't agree more with this comment.

For at least 2 of my friends, it wouldn't matter how far the manufactures drove down the price of DSLRs...they just don't want the bother of switching lens, cleaning sensors, having to carry another device for movies, etc, etc, etc. To them, the comparison of a DSLR vs. the S3 has nothing to do with price and everything to do with how you define your enjoyment of photography.

If the S6 has improved image quality, a wider angle, as fast or faster lens, HD movies, articulating LCD, etc., with all the other bells and whistles we've grown accustomed to in the Sx series, the $500 or $600 could very well be considered good value by many consumers . While it's nice to see, who cares if you can get an entry level DSLR with a crappy kit lens for $600!?!:rolleyes:

For those that want to compare an amazing camera like the S3 to an entry level DSLR on price alone: well at least calculate the costs of all the appropriate lenses (with comparable speed, features like IS, and quality: i.e. not kit lenses) which would cover the 36 to 432 range of the S3; plus macro; plus movies (all in a nicely sized package). Don't just quote a body-only or body + plus a mariginal quality kit lens. For the lens quality I'd be looking for, it would certainly be many times the cost of my S3.

Someday I'll most likely purchase a DSLR however it will be to "add" to my S3 and not replace it.:)

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Jun 12, 2008 21:22 |  #45

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Couldn't agree more with this comment.

For at least 2 of my friends, it wouldn't matter how far the manufactures drove down the price of DSLRs...they just don't want the bother of switching lens, cleaning sensors, having to carry another device for movies, etc, etc, etc. To them, the comparison of a DSLR vs. the S3 has nothing to do with price and everything to do with how you define your enjoyment of photography.

If the S6 has improved image quality, a wider angle, as fast or faster lens, HD movies, articulating LCD, etc., with all the other bells and whistles we've grown accustomed to in the Sx series, the $500 or $600 could very well be considered good value by many consumers . While it's nice to see, who cares if you can get an entry level DSLR with a crappy kit lens for $600!?!:rolleyes:

For those that want to compare an amazing camera like the S3 to an entry level DSLR on price alone: well at least calculate the costs of all the appropriate lenses (with comparable speed, features like IS, and quality: i.e. not kit lenses) which would cover the 36 to 432 range of the S3; plus macro; plus movies (all in a nicely sized package). Don't just quote a body-only or body + plus a mariginal quality kit lens. For the lens quality I'd be looking for, it would certainly be many times the cost of my S3.

Someday I'll most likely purchase a DSLR however it will be to "add" to my S3 and not replace it.:)

LOL! You call the S3 " amazing camera"


  
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