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Jun 02, 2008 22:14 |  #1

... Calumet charges $25 for a replacement modeling light bulb for the Genesis flash units:

http://www.calumetphot​o.com/item/OL1003/ (external link)

While seemingly the exact same bulb costs $6.79 at lightbulbemporium.com:

http://www.lightbulbem​porium.com/proddetail.​asp?prod=614152 (external link)

Am I missing something or are these not completely interchangeable JDD 150W, frosted, E26 base, halogen bulbs? I'd like to have a set of spares on hand and $13.58 for a pair is, obviously, alot more appealing than $50 a pair.

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Jun 02, 2008 23:49 |  #2

Hmm, I'm guessing that Calumet will trying to make up for the low price of the Genesis lights on the accessories. I had my Genesis 200 lights 2 days before the modeling light on one burnt out, so I'm in need of some spares. Thanks for the link. I think I'll order up some from there.


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Jun 03, 2008 00:19 |  #3

I got hosed on some 250w halogens from Paul C. Buff. I'll buy smarter next time.


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Jun 03, 2008 06:42 |  #4

They appear to be the same to me thanks for the link. John




  
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Jun 03, 2008 06:49 |  #5

I think this is case quantity prices, which means you have to buy a case of bulbs to get them at that price. Can anyone verify this? If I don't have to buy them in bulk, then this is an awesome price!




  
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Jun 03, 2008 08:26 |  #6

Michael you are right. The lightbulbemporium are 320$ for the case. You do get fifty of them though. Maybe I should buy a box and sell them for 10$ (to offset shipping) in the forums.


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Jun 03, 2008 08:37 |  #7

MichaelDTY wrote in post #5648859 (external link)
I think this is case quantity prices, which means you have to buy a case of bulbs to get them at that price. Can anyone verify this? If I don't have to buy them in bulk, then this is an awesome price!

Nope. I ordered two bulbs for a total of $19.57 including shipping. If you *choose* to order a case, the price works out to $6.38 per bulb.

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Jun 03, 2008 10:11 |  #8

tetrode wrote in post #5649336 (external link)
Nope. I ordered two bulbs for a total of $19.57 including shipping. If you *choose* to order a case, the price works out to $6.38 per bulb.

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Jun 03, 2008 10:58 |  #9

One thing to test when you get them.

Sometimes modeling lights are expensive because of the "Scaling" feature of the light. Sometimes some halogen bulbs will either be on or off and will not scale with the power setting.

So I would suggest you test it and report back. If it works the same you have indeed "STRUCK GOLD", if it doesnt work then they are useless for someone that uses the scaling feature.




  
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Jun 03, 2008 11:17 |  #10

wilvoeka wrote in post #5650100 (external link)
One thing to test when you get them.

Sometimes modeling lights are expensive because of the "Scaling" feature of the light. Sometimes some halogen bulbs will either be on or off and will not scale with the power setting.

So I would suggest you test it and report back. If it works the same you have indeed "STRUCK GOLD", if it doesnt work then they are useless for someone that uses the scaling feature.

I actually thought of that and that's what prompted my initial posting. I will, of course, test the new bulbs against the originals to ensure the proportionality performance of the two is equivalent. Common sense would certainly suggest that the extreme price premium asked for the Calumet original buys you something "special".

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Jun 05, 2008 18:59 as a reply to  @ tetrode's post |  #11

I received the new replacement modeling light bulbs today and, as promised, I ran a test to see how they perform relative to the stock bulbs supplied with the Genesis kit.

Test setup was simple: Genesis 200 on a lightstand positioned 3' away from a tripod-mounted Minolta Flashmeter IV set to ambient light mode. ISO set on the meter was 200; shutter speed set to 1/8 second. The slow shutter speed was required in order to get a meter reading when the Genesis was set to minimum output (the modeling light is extremely dim at the "10" power setting).

So, here are my results:

IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2555008426_8d52cf3169_o.jpg

To cut to the chase, it would appear that the new, low cost bulb performs just as well as the "stock" bulbs. The metered differences among the three bulbs tested are, in my estimation, hardly significant. Note that the output variation between the two original stock bulbs is greater than the variation between "Stock Bulb 2" and the new bargain bulb. Although not shown in the table, I also tested "Stock Bulb 1" in my other Genesis light and was pleased to see no more than a .1 stop variation between it and the other Genesis 200 at any power setting.

I think the real news here is just how non-linear the output of the Genesis lights is. What was true when I tested the flash output linearity a few months back, is equally true for this test of the "proportional" modeling light output. The modeling light output may in fact be proportional to the flash output in which case it's doing its assigned job well. It just needs to be remembered that neither the flash nor the modeling light output is linear over the indicated "10" to "60" power range.

One final point, the replacement bulbs are somewhat smaller than the originals.:

IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2554121331_5a99315680_o.jpg

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Jul 25, 2008 14:59 |  #12

...but do they last as long as the stock bulbs?


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Jul 25, 2008 16:52 |  #13

Smaller may be better. I wonder if they are enough shorter?
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