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Jun 08, 2008 13:32 |  #16

The artistic aspect, including an interesting subject, attractive perspective/framing, lighting conditions, is obvious (but not always controllable by the photographer, e.g. at many sport events). So I’ll concentrate on the more technical aspects.

My “secrets” are (in order of priority):

1) Nail the focus on the main subject
2) Avoid camera shake
3) Avoid unintended motion blur
4) Get the correct exposure
5) JPEG only: Select the correct white balance
6) JPEG only: Select the correct contrast setting

ad 1) Many pictures live from their illusion of depth. This is not only achieved by choosing the appropriate perspective, but also the gradient of sharpness, which includes the choice of appropriate DOF (depth of field).
Obviously, for all this the main subject must be focussed properly to begin with. Casual focussing, such as let the camera choose the AF-point, misplacing the AF-point, trying to shoot (even only slightly) moving subjects with One Shot AF and the like, will often lead to mediocre results.
The same goes for shooting in P-mode (program automatic) instead of Tv, Av or M, because only the latter will allow you to control DOF and motion blur.

ad 2) If you stick with traditional wisdom, which states that your shutter speed should be the reciprocal of the focal length, you will rarely get a really crisp picture, even if you calculate in the crop factor correctly. These old rule of thumb was valid for viewing a picture at “normal viewing distance” and not as a 100% pixel representation on the screen, which is equivalent to inspecting a poster-sized picture closely. There is a reason, why valid resolution tests can only be made from a tripod, with remote shutter release and sometimes even mirror lockup. For practical use, you’ll have to factor in the closer viewing distance equivalent to viewing the 100% representation on the screen (and the actual steadiness of your hand).

ad 3) Whenever you have to deal with moving subjects, you would rather want the subject sharp and the proximity blurred and not the other way round. So track the target, thus reducing the relative speed of the subject and choose a short enough shutter speed to freeze the motion on the parts of the subject that should appear sharp. Once again, every estimation on the shutter speed required, will have to deal with the modern habbits of 100% pixel peeping instead of older experiences from the film days, where normal sized prints were viewed from normal viewing distance (e.g. closest viewing distance equals the diagonal dimension of the print). To stop action on fast and/or erratically moving subjects, such as dogs, children, football players and the like, you will rarely get away with shutter speeds slower than 1/1000s – provided you fill the frame with the action. A boring WA shot of the action, showing “everything and nothing” will need much less shutter speed, but will also rarely be judged as to be breathtaking.

ad 4) Crisp and sharp looking pictures should neither exhibit blown-out highlights, nor excessive noise. So it is essential to double check your exposure to fill the top region of the histogram without blowing any important highlights, such as white fur of a pet or light reflections on the cheek, nose or skinhead of a human.
Following the priority of my list, select ISO sensitivity high enough to get appropriate fast shutter speeds in order to avoid motion blur, but at the same time keep it as low as possible. Image quality is essentially the same from ISO 100 to 400, but above that, it starts to suffer slightly. In any case, it is far better to have an otherwise perfect shot with a little noise in it (that can be partially removed later in post processing) than a perfect clean and noise-free shot of a blurred subject.

ad 5) As we all know, light color controls the temper of a scene. For instance, a sunset captured with automatic white balance will look plain ugly. When shooting RAW, you will not have to deal with this, since you can choose the correct white balance later in the RAW processing without any adverse effects, but with a JPEG you will loose some precious color information if you have to alter the white balance in post processing.
If shooting JPEG, don’t stick to AWB since it is inaccurate in many situations. Make sure to dial in the appropriate preset and choose “Daylight” when in doubt – this way you wouldn’t be too far off in most situations (e.g. it would be the correct setting for the sunset picture).

ad 6) This also is only important if you’re not shooting RAW. For a punchy looking image, the correct contrast settings are important. These are also affected by the selected picture style. I would recommend to stick with “Faithful” with color saturation +1 for all shots. You will still have to adjust the contrast setting according to the scene, and this could be a little difficult, because the overall light situation does not always apply to a specific scene you want to capture. Generally, you should reduce the contrast setting if the scene shows high contrast and vice versa. But you’ll really have to check the specific scene you want to capture (best take a test shot and check the histogram), and not e.g. generally think “It is an overcast day, with soft light and low contrasts, so I can push the contrast setting all the way up for all my today’s shooting”…

You should understand by now, why so many people shoot RAW. It is hard enough to deal with all the other challenges, most of all being to capture the right moment, so they don’t want to bother with white balance and tone curves (which ultimately define the contrast too) and as an additional bonus they can deal with minor(or even major) exposure inaccuracies with the least possible degradation in image quality.

These are my “secrets”, and there may well be some more, but I believe these should be sufficient for the beginning, to get you the images you’re striving for ;-)a




  
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Jun 08, 2008 14:15 |  #17

Good post Performa01.:cool:


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Jun 08, 2008 14:42 |  #18

My advice: there is no advice. It doesn't hurt to read books and ask questions, but I feel that only by doing will you progress. Do it, and then if you have specific questions, get a book or ask em. But how much help can someone give if you're asking in such general terms? I mean, we could help you, if you got 8 hours to kill.

Go out and shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot...

Performa01, you nailed everything with that post.


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Jun 08, 2008 15:33 |  #19

gregpphoto wrote in post #5684433 (external link)
My advice: there is no advice. It doesn't hurt to read books and ask questions, but I feel that only by doing will you progress. Do it, and then if you have specific questions, get a book or ask em. But how much help can someone give if you're asking in such general terms? I mean, we could help you, if you got 8 hours to kill.

Go out and shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot...

Performa01, you nailed everything with that post.

However, at least to me (a new 40D user), all the hints posted by you and others in this thread will save me a lot of time, and add to the possibility of becoming more proficient and taking better photos sooner.

Keep them coming! :)


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Jun 08, 2008 16:13 |  #20

Hey if it works for you, by all means keep doing it.


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Jun 08, 2008 16:55 |  #21

gregpphoto wrote in post #5684433 (external link)
My advice: there is no advice. It doesn't hurt to read books and ask questions, but I feel that only by doing will you progress. Do it, and then if you have specific questions, get a book or ask em. But how much help can someone give if you're asking in such general terms? I mean, we could help you, if you got 8 hours to kill.

Go out and shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot...

Performa01, you nailed everything with that post.

I strongly disagree. I have read books and forum posts that answered question I would never had thought to ask. It's not at all unusual to find a new gem of information that gives that piece of advice you never realised you were missing but ended up making you just a little bit better at what you do.

Contrary to your post, I would suggest that the OP be an information sponge, and never stop trying to learn.


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Jun 08, 2008 16:58 |  #22

I never thought of it that way, learning something you really had no clue about. Makes a lot of sense, I suppose theres a few things I might not have figured out on my own, but I like to think that eventually I would. Yet even then, learning it earlier will let me progress faster. Kudos.

I wasnt trying to tell the guy not to ask questions, I just feel you learn more by doing than by reading, but you gotta do whatever works for you.


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Jun 08, 2008 17:07 |  #23

I agree with that. Actually getting out and taking pictures is a crucially important part of the process. No doubt about that.


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Jun 08, 2008 17:11 |  #24

Not for nothing but i like how i wasnt flamed or any crap, this is a great forum to come and talk and learn. Man Im up to 36 posts and I just joined today!


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Jun 08, 2008 17:13 |  #25

Tripod's...They have been around a long time.

It's not because there cool, or fun, or make shooting easier....It's because they work!

They don't work just becuase they steady the camera...it makes you think about composition and makes you plan the shot.

$ for $ they will do more for your photos than any lens on the market...Don't skimp.


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Jun 08, 2008 17:18 |  #26

I agree. I used to shoot handheld in nature, believing that I could cover more ground and waste less time than to bother with a tripod. While thats true, I could not ever shoot without one again, if it were up to me every time. My habits now are to set up the tripod, remote and mirror lock up. Why spend the time getting to a place, i realized, if you're only gonaa make a half-assed attempt at capturing the moment?


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Jun 08, 2008 18:40 |  #27

gregpphoto wrote in post #5684433 (external link)
Go out and shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot....

I disagree with recommendations to shoot tons of images in order to learn photography. To me, it's sort of like telling one to learn to shoot a rifle accurately by merely blasting away with several boxes of ammunition.

Instead, I recommend that a photographer who is trying to learn the basics concentrate on making essentially one image (or possibly a few in a common series) at a time. This would allow for analysis of the image(s), reshooting if necessary, and correcting any errors before progressing to the next image. This is even easier to do with the advent of digital photography than it used to be in the "olden days" when we had to process our film and print the images in a darkroom (or wait days for prints to be returned from a processing service).

The new photographer has so many things to learn (exposure control, focus control, composition, etc.) that shooting lots of images would, at least in the beginning, drown the learning process.

I strongly recommend that the beginning photographer turn OFF as much of a modern camera's automation as possible. Use manual exposure control for sure, and manual focus if it's practical with the camera in hand. It's far easier to analyse one's mistakes when the choices were made by the photographer and not the camera.


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Jun 08, 2008 19:02 |  #28

gregpphoto wrote in post #5684433 (external link)
My advice: there is no advice. It doesn't hurt to read books and ask questions, but I feel that only by doing will you progress. Do it, and then if you have specific questions, get a book or ask em. But how much help can someone give if you're asking in such general terms? I mean, we could help you, if you got 8 hours to kill.

Go out and shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot...

Performa01, you nailed everything with that post.

Well, I can tell you from experience that if you do not know how to throw a curveball and go out and throw a ball a hundred times......you will not learn to throw a curveball.

I didn't think what is a tip for sharp pictures was that general. How do you take GOOD pictures, yea....that's general.

There are tips and techniques to everything and most on here are ready to share and help everyone progress in this hobby/lifestyle/obsess​ion.

Thanks to all the posts...this has become very informative!:D

Please keep them coming.




  
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Jun 08, 2008 19:09 as a reply to  @ rhodesx6's post |  #29

Performa 01...thanks for ALL that info. I am on my third reading of it and know there will be more. But, as you stated, I can definitely see the advantages of shooting raw. Before I got 40D i used a S2 and didn't have an option (or if I did I didn't know)I am now learning about options. OPTIONS RULE!




  
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Jun 08, 2008 19:21 |  #30

Shooting at a higher aperture (such as F/8) will increase your depth of field but also often increase the sharpness of the image. It's a bit of a trade-off but depends what you are shooting as well. I don't have the IS kit lens but I've read it's suppose to be pretty good and sharp.

For me, the biggest improvements in sharpness HAVE been upgrading my lenses and shooting in RAW for the important stuff. My Sigma 24-60 f/2.8 is tack-sharp, much nicer lens then my 17-85 was. And my 70-200 f/2.8 is also very sharp at the wide end, and fairly sharp at the long end when stepped down to f/4-f/8. Lenses will often have a "sweet spot" with regards to aperture.

Shooting in RAW is however probably the best way to sharpen your images to what you desire. If you want to shoot JPG, make sure you adjust the sharpness in the picture styles in the camera settings.


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