Hi all...
Basically i am just wondering what the difference between the 580 EX and the 580 EX II is?
Cheers,
Ryan.s Senior Member  255 posts Joined Aug 2006 More info | Jun 08, 2008 14:05 | #1 Hi all... Ryan.S
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fi20100 Slightly late  3,587 posts Likes: 8 Joined Jul 2006 Location: Finland More info | Jun 08, 2008 14:41 | #2 The newer 580EX II recycles about 20% faster than the old one. It has a bit better build with metal foot. Better dust and water resistance. Better lock to hot shoe solution. Slightly larger than the old one. It also has an in-built PC-terminal. Stefan
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krusnof Senior Member 252 posts Joined Oct 2005 More info | Jun 08, 2008 14:53 | #3 And it is much more silent with recycling - actually mute! Best regards
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m3rdpwr Goldmember 1,332 posts Joined Jun 2007 More info | Jun 08, 2008 16:42 | #4 krusnof wrote in post #5684490  And it is much more silent with recycling - actually mute! And the 580EX ii has a far better battery cover.
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tim Light Bringer  51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Jun 08, 2008 17:19 | #5 580 II has less buttons, making it harder to use. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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m3rdpwr Goldmember 1,332 posts Joined Jun 2007 More info | Jun 08, 2008 17:27 | #6 tim wrote in post #5685302 580 II has less buttons, making it harder to use. Less buttons meaning no Off/Master/Slave switch.
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basroil Cream of the Crop  8,015 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2006 Location: STL/Clayton, MO| NJ More info | Jun 08, 2008 17:48 | #7 m3rdpwr wrote in post #5685351 Less buttons meaning no Off/Master/Slave switch. This means it takes more steps to put it in and out of wireless modes. Otherwise, same buttons... -Mario unless you have a MKIII ( i think 40d supports the functions too), where you can control everything in the flash from the camera. that means modes, flash compensation, ettl slaves, etc. old 580 can't do most of those things (though you still have some in camera options for the flash) I don't hate macs or OSX, I hate people and statements that portray them as better than anything else. Macs are A solution, not THE solution. Get a good desktop i7 with Windows 7 and come tell me that sucks for photo or video editing.
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tim Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Jun 08, 2008 17:54 | #8 Yes you can control wireless ETTL from the 40D body, but it's WAY quicker and easier from the hardware controls on the flash. I wouldn't buy a 580 II as a main flash, and if I buy another flash i'll look for a 2nd hand 580. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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sapearl Cream of the Crop  More info | Jun 08, 2008 18:15 | #9 Interesting - glad you pointed that out Tim. I'm not currently in the market for another strobe, but this is a good thing to know regarding their differences. tim wrote in post #5685473 Yes you can control wireless ETTL from the 40D body, but it's WAY quicker and easier from the hardware controls on the flash. I wouldn't buy a 580 II as a main flash, and if I buy another flash i'll look for a 2nd hand 580. GEAR LIST
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m3rdpwr Goldmember 1,332 posts Joined Jun 2007 More info | Jun 08, 2008 19:35 | #10 m3rdpwr wrote in post #5685351 Less buttons meaning no Off/Master/Slave switch. This means it takes more steps to put it in and out of wireless modes. Otherwise, same buttons... -Mario Back on what I had said.
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jrsforums Goldmember 1,249 posts Joined Feb 2005 Location: Cary (Raleigh), NC, USA More info | Jun 08, 2008 20:16 | #11 Ryan.s wrote in post #5684251 Hi all... Basically i am just wondering what the difference between the 580 EX and the 580 EX II is? Cheers, http://www.the-digital-picture.com …eedlite-Flash-Review.aspx John
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Jun 09, 2008 11:31 | #12 tim wrote in post #5685473 Yes you can control wireless ETTL from the 40D body, but it's WAY quicker and easier from the hardware controls on the flash. I wouldn't buy a 580 II as a main flash, and if I buy another flash i'll look for a 2nd hand 580. I just get 40D and I wish to use 580EX (old one) as a slave. I try but without success. Any tips? Milan www.pbase.com/milv
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sapearl Cream of the Crop More info | Jun 09, 2008 11:45 | #13 Mil, do you have both the 580ex and the II and you are trying to use the (original) 580ex as the slave to the newer unit? Mil wrote in post #5689502 I just get 40D and I wish to use 580EX (old one) as a slave. I try but without success. Any tips? Thanks! Milan GEAR LIST
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Jun 09, 2008 12:44 | #14 sapearl wrote in post #5689594 Mil, do you have both the 580ex and the II and you are trying to use the (original) 580ex as the slave to the newer unit? I would imagine it should work. Set the (old) 580ex for slave, but then you would need to configure the newer unit somehow as the master. Likely that's explained in manual. Not having the newer unit I can't give you any good specific advice. Sorry. Sorry, I forgot to mentioned. As a master I wish to use internal flash of 40D and 580EX as a slave. Is this possible? Milan www.pbase.com/milv
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fi20100 Slightly late 3,587 posts Likes: 8 Joined Jul 2006 Location: Finland More info | Jun 09, 2008 12:56 | #15 Mil wrote in post #5689894 Sorry, I forgot to mentioned. As a master I wish to use internal flash of 40D and 580EX as a slave. Is this possible? Thanks! No, that is impossible. You could of course get a ST-E2 and keep both flashes off camera, but the pop-up flash can't be used as a master. Stefan
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