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Jun 11, 2008 05:00 |  #16

If you want general wedding advice check out the wedding FAQ.


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Jun 11, 2008 05:42 |  #17

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My Set-up:
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Sandisk 4gb Ultra II CF cards
HP DV5000Z and Photoshop CS2
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1% spot meter and a random flash meter
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2x 42" reflective umbrellas
16x24" softbox
18% gray card


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Jun 11, 2008 05:48 |  #18

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i dont understand , am i typing it wrong or something, I am looking for pictures of peoples set up, what you carry around in yuor hand, IE camera, flash bracket, flash, whatever you use at the event and an example of something you shot, why does every one keep putting a gear list down with no examples. I appriciate the effort but its not what i am asking for.

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You know what a camera body looks like?

You know what a lens looks like?

You know what a hot shoe flash looks like?

Picture it all slapped together in usable form. ;)

In other words, it does you no good to just see someone's rig. You have to know how to use it more than you need to know what it looks like. If you want to see what the average wedding rig looks like, slap your own stuff together and look at it.


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Jun 11, 2008 05:54 |  #19

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I consider it basic that you absolutely need off-camera flashes and some way of triggering them, shooting through brollies or softboxes.

Really? I don't...


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Jun 11, 2008 05:59 |  #20

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OK

You know what a camera body looks like?

You know what a lens looks like?

You know what a hot shoe flash looks like?

Picture it all slapped together in usable form. ;)

In other words, it does you no good to just see someone's rig. You have to know how to use it more than you need to know what it looks like. If you want to see what the average wedding rig looks like, slap your own stuff together and look at it.

well thank you for your absolutly useless comment, no need to be a smart ass here, i am just trying to learn and get some new ideas, not every one is as camera perfect as you are. and i was looking for more examples of how wedding and indoor event photogs had theres set up and examples of them, not just a hot shoe flash slapped on a camera, of coarse i can do that, but others, the pros like your self prob have other set ups and other methods to get other and better results, i was just trying to learn that, so if you have something usefull to put out please do, if not, move on thanks.

to the rest thank you for your insight and information i appriciate it.


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Jun 11, 2008 06:02 |  #21

Jeff Ascough seems to manage fairly well without flash of any kind. The interview here gives a fair insight into his approach. Pictures included.

http://photo.net/inter​views/jeff-ascough (external link)

I've also enjoyed watching the Masters Of Wedding Photography DVDs, which are most enlightening. See the kit, see the guys at work, feel the flow.

Volume I - http://www.mastersofwe​ddingphotography.com/m​owp/index.htm (external link)
Volume II - http://www.mastersofwe​ddingphotography.com/i​ndex.html (external link)




  
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Jun 11, 2008 06:04 |  #22

akhoopes wrote in post #5700863 (external link)
well thank you for your absolutly useless comment, no need to be a smart ass here, i am just trying to learn and get some new ideas, not every one is as camera perfect as you are. and i was looking for more examples of how wedding and indoor event photogs had theres set up and examples of them, not just a hot shoe flash slapped on a camera, of coarse i can do that, but others, the pros like your self prob have other set ups and other methods to get other and better results, i was just trying to learn that, so if you have something usefull to put out please do, if not, move on thanks.

to the rest thank you for your insight and information i appriciate it.

My comment is not useless and I am not being a smartass. The fact that you have to keep "clarifying" your request should tell you quite a bit...

I (and many many others) just use a simple hot shoe flash on a camera with lens of choice. And that's my whole point...it's great to be able to do vast lighting setups but it's really not necessary and sometimes not even feasible.

Am I the best? Absolutely not. But a little technique can go a long way...and that includes knowing when to turn the flash off.


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Jun 11, 2008 06:32 |  #23

People with almost 20,000 posts get to post amusing slightly provocative comments from time to time. That post was one of the most useful on the thread IMHO, and I found it funny :)

Just a quick question too, what does "jumping threw" photography mean? I would expect through rather than threw. I'm not having a go at ya, i'm just curious.


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Jun 11, 2008 07:02 |  #24

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Just a quick question too, what does "jumping threw" photography mean? I would expect through rather than threw. I'm not having a go at ya, i'm just curious.

My last name is Hoopes, so Jumping Threw is sorta like the old saying Jumping Threw Hoopes, I know you spell it through, but i just liked it the other way, nothing more the personal preferance.


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Jun 11, 2008 07:56 |  #25

You wanted a kit pic, so here ya go....

Below is the rig I carry around, backed up with a 30D and another 580EX. Sometimes without the Stofen Omnibounce and that depends on what there is for ceilings or walls to bounce from. Occasionally use the pullout catchlight card in the 580EX.

You said your images could be better. What do you see in your images that you think needs improvement? Exposure, unwanted color cast or too warm of a tone, shadows cast behind subjects, uneven lighting. These could be related to the rig you're using, but more likely how it's being used.

This is a really good site to browse through regarding use of flash and it's techniques....

http://planetneil.com …h-photography-techniques/ (external link)


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Jun 11, 2008 08:07 as a reply to  @ Mark_48's post |  #26

Take a look here also. http://digitalprotalk.​blogspot.com/ (external link) Super results with a 40D and two flashes. One on camera, one off.


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Jun 11, 2008 08:25 |  #27

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You wanted a kit pic, so here ya go....

Below is the rig I carry around, backed up with a 30D and another 580EX. Sometimes without the Stofen Omnibounce and that depends on what there is for ceilings or walls to bounce from. Occasionally use the pullout catchlight card in the 580EX.

You said your images could be better. What do you see in your images that you think needs improvement? Exposure, unwanted color cast or too warm of a tone, shadows cast behind subjects, uneven lighting. These could be related to the rig you're using, but more likely how it's being used.

This is a really good site to browse through regarding use of flash and it's techniques....

http://planetneil.com …h-photography-techniques/ (external link)

thank you finally some one got it, so what bracket is this, what company sell it, do you get good shadow free results with it, have any examples taken with it, does it rotate from standard to portrait pretty easy. Thank you fo ryour information and time. I appriciate it.

every one else, thank you fo ryour info defiantly appricate it as well.


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Jun 11, 2008 08:44 |  #28

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pcunite - it's generally considered impolite to link to a lot of large images on a forum. There's a 100kb max size on POTN.

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Jun 11, 2008 08:45 as a reply to  @ akhoopes's post |  #29

Bill, The bracket in the shot is a Pro-M from Custom Brackets. I bought it on ebay from this seller http://cgi.ebay.com …ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm​dZViewItem (external link) (I offered $205 and won it). It is available from other vendors such as B&H and Adorama as well. Camera rotates smoothly and the grip shutter button rotates to the correct position on top. I bought this as I had started with an inexpensive bracket that the hinges loosened up in use.

By no means is this the only bracket out there and you'll find many opinions on various brackets. You could have asked, "What flash bracket are you using for weddings?", but you would have had replies that there have been many threads on this subject, do a search. Newton brackets are also well regarded. I don't think you'll find much difference in images from different brackets used. The difference will be in how and where the photographer directed and used the light from the flash(es).

I was under somewhat of the impression that the Gary Fong Lightsphere could be used without a bracket, only needing to turn the flash head as needed for portrait or landscape orientation.


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Bill, The bracket in the shot is a Pro-M from Custom Brackets. I bought it on ebay from this seller http://cgi.ebay.com …ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm​dZViewItem (external link) (I offered $205 and won it). It is available from other vendors such as B&H and Adorama as well. Camera rotates smoothly and the grip shutter button rotates to the correct position on top. I bought this as I had started with an inexpensive bracket that the hinges loosened up in use.

By no means is this the only bracket out there and you'll find many opinions on various brackets. You could have asked, "What flash bracket are you using for weddings?", but you would have had replies that there have been many threads on this subject, do a search. Newton brackets are also well regarded. I don't think you'll find much difference in images from different brackets used. The difference will be in how and where the photographer directed and used the light from the flash(es).

I was under somewhat of the impression that the Gary Fong Lightsphere could be used without a bracket, only needing to turn the flash head as needed for portrait or landscape orientation.

I have the gary fong lightsphere,and i used it for almost every shot in the gallery below, and either i didnt use it right, dont know how to use it, or it just sucks, lol, here are the pics i took to the wedding this past weekend, this was the first wedding i ever did, the church had no air,, 95 degrees, and high dark wood celings, there is absolutly no post proccessing done to any of these, they are right out of the camera converted from raw and resized in lightroom. nothing else other then that, some turned out ok, others were just down right horrible, i think i would have gotten better results with a flash bracket, thats why i wanted to see peoples set ups, and of coarse a little more practice in this relm of photography since i am used to portrait and model shooting. this wasnt a paid gig, it was actually my grandmother getting married at 70. good practice though. here is the link most of them turnd out quite yellow, why is that, white balance was all jacked up.....

www.jumpingthrewphoto.​com/gallery/5126095_hM​vbp#309619227_FpmpX (external link)


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