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Jun 16, 2008 09:08 |  #16

thats my opinion...
i wish you luck.


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Jun 16, 2008 09:29 |  #17

You know the more and more I read post like this, the more I start to dislike asking for opinions here... All of these comments, "You shouldnt be doing this" "You should let a pro do it" etc....is pure BS...Even a seasoned pro took a chance and started somewhere...Ok, maybe weddings are a different story, but this hardly comes close...

How in the hell is someone supposed to gain experience and learn from their mistakes if they are always being told, you shouldnt do this...???

I may be somewhat new to photography, however in my line of paid work, I take the job and then figure out the best way to make things work out... If I were to sit back and let a "pro" do everything, I would be in the poor house and my job would be just a hobby...

Sorry for the rant but how about some support for people on here rather than just putting people down...

To the OP, I say, learn as much as you can before the shoot and experiement, take the job and do it the best you can, learn from there...


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Jun 16, 2008 09:45 |  #18

I agree with cory1848.

For the ones that posted comments that he should not do it keep in mind that being a Pro with 10 years of experience does not always mean you know what you are doing.

There are people out there in any business who stop learning after 1 month.
In the end they may say that they've been in business for 10 years but they haven't progressed. All they've done is repeat the 1st month of knowledge over and over again.

The OP already mentioned that the previous Pro they hired did not produce good results (and charged a lot of money). That kind of proves my point.


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Jun 16, 2008 09:45 |  #19

Cory - I was not trying to be mean but he asked for opinions and in my professional opinion he should not be doing this. First it is his real job--- if he messes up they will hold it against him for a long time. From what he posted leads me to believe that he is not ready for this. He does not have a flash ---has never done this before. He needs to practice on other assignments before he rushes into doing this for his real job.
Practice and getting this nailed down takes time--- you can't have iffy photos for professional use. He must nail this perfect and in my opinion needs practice first.


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Jun 16, 2008 09:46 |  #20

You said it Cory. kinda bummed me out too.


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Jun 16, 2008 09:50 |  #21

Stat instead of being blunt you should have stated this in the first place

Stathunter "He must nail this perfect and in my opinion needs practice first."

thats exactly what we said but we said go for it.
when will he have another chance for people he is familiar with. and im sure is and will be able to control the atmosphere. and he does have a stock flash if he really wanted to use it i wouldnt recommend unless he had a diffuser or something. but i think this is a perfect start for him.


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Jun 16, 2008 10:03 |  #22

stathunter wrote in post #5730606 (external link)
Cory - I was not trying to be mean but he asked for opinions and in my professional opinion he should not be doing this. First it is his real job--- if he messes up they will hold it against him for a long time. From what he posted leads me to believe that he is not ready for this. He does not have a flash ---has never done this before. He needs to practice on other assignments before he rushes into doing this for his real job.
Practice and getting this nailed down takes time--- you can't have iffy photos for professional use. He must nail this perfect and in my opinion needs practice first.

I understand what your saying, the first time around it just came across as one of the few hundred posts in the wedding forums that if you dont have $10k in gear, you shouldnt be trying...Just gets old reading that day after day... To me it sounds like professionals protecting their profession and warding off any and all new comers that may steal their business...


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Jun 16, 2008 10:05 |  #23
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cory1848 wrote in post #5730706 (external link)
I understand what your saying, the first time around it just came across as one of the few hundred posts in the wedding forums that if you dont have $10k in gear, you shouldnt be trying...Just gets old reading that day after day... To me it sounds like professionals protecting their profession and warding off any and all new comers that may steal their business...

hahahah, yeah, there is ALOT of that going on around here...


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Jun 16, 2008 10:09 |  #24

"hahahah, yeah, there is ALOT of that going on around here..."


LOL cory we should get outta this thread... these pro's ^ are much better than us and have the time as there experiance to which we dont have.


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Jun 16, 2008 10:19 |  #25

cory1848 wrote in post #5730706 (external link)
I understand what your saying, the first time around it just came across as one of the few hundred posts in the wedding forums that if you dont have $10k in gear, you shouldnt be trying...Just gets old reading that day after day... To me it sounds like professionals protecting their profession and warding off any and all new comers that may steal their business...

Some have that opinion. In my opinion I think providing a quality product is more important that what gear you have. My business is weddings so I understand that importance of having the right equipment that assists in getting better images.
I think there is enough room for everyone to make a living in the photography industry---


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Jun 16, 2008 10:24 |  #26

Stathunter- im sure theres a good percentage of weddings, that there has been some great photos using natural light. Right. i mean i could be totally wrong but most wedding stuff i have seen is alot of natural lights. of coarse not for formal poses and what have you but the walk around during...


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stathunter wrote in post #5730785 (external link)
Some have that opinion. In my opinion I think providing a quality product is more important that what gear you have. My business is weddings so I understand that importance of having the right equipment that assists in getting better images.
I think there is enough room for everyone to make a living in the photography industry---

yeah well you weren't BORN a wedding photographer... You didn't wake up one morning and POOF you became a wedding photographer. You had to start out SOMEWHERE and im sure you didn't open your front door one day and have all your gear sitting wrapped up in pretty boxes for you..... So why leave nasty comments. We all have to start somewhere.... A professional was an amature before he became a professional.


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Jun 16, 2008 10:51 |  #28

Nuff said kenski...


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Jun 16, 2008 11:11 |  #29

How about shooting the rest of the employees first, before tackling the management? A few hundred "test shots" should iron out any wrinkles.
Apologies if this is constuctive advice instead just another "do it/don't do it" comment.;)




  
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Jun 16, 2008 12:04 as a reply to  @ bildeb0rg's post |  #30

thanks everybody for your advice. every comment here is important for me, even the ones where you tell me not to shoot. if i the shots turn out good, i'll be even more inspired to take pictures. if not... oh well... as you said - i'm not ready.

but my main question wasn't - should or shouldn't i.... i wanted to hear some tips and advice. something like - don't use the camera flash... or maybe place your "subject" at a 90 degree angle to the window... use a gray background... i don't know. i've never taken these kinds of pictures. not that i can't, but because i don't really like taking pictures of people. i'm more of a "nature photographer".

and by the way - i don't really care about my work. i can quit tomorrow. i just work because i want to buy better gear.

i have two more days to prepare. so any more advice is welcome.




  
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