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Jun 19, 2008 10:11 |  #16

Since you shot this with ISO 100, you should have a lot of latitude to lighten the shadows.

This type of scene will, without a flash, force you to compromise in one way or another -- if you exposed for the people in the shadows, the sky in the background would likely get blown. A fill flash would definitely be useful here. But, without one, you are best shooting in RAW and then using PP tools to adjust. Doing more than one exposure would be tricky because, as has been noted, people are in motion.

Try Frank's suggestion: in your RAW converter adjust the picture to maximize shadow details and load that image into Photoshop (assuming you're using that) and then adjust the same RAW file for the highlights and load that and apply that as a seperate layer to paint over the base layer. Or, you may be satisfied with highlight/shadow tools in RAW or Photoshop.

When getting the shot, remember that the camera (if in evaluative mode) will try to take in all the scene in one way or another. To determine exposure, you want to determine what part of the scene can give you a reliable "reading" and that will give you the best balance of tones, then spot meter that part and adjust your exposure -- either with exposure compensation in a "semi-automatic" mode or by adjusting shutter, aperture or ISO in manual mode -- to "tell the camera" what tone to make the subject (if the subject is relatively dark, use -EV, if light use +EV).

You can also use exposure lock -- expose for, say, the shadows and press and hold the * button while recomposing and taking the shot.

These are certainly challenging senes that we all have to deal with one way or another! Good luck and hae fun!


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Jun 19, 2008 22:01 |  #17

PhotosGuy wrote in post #5752020 (external link)
Tripod, BUT you can't expect that she won't move, so I'd make two different conversions in RAW & blend them.
Easier for you would be to use the mask in an Adjustment Layer if you have PS.

i'm sorry if i have been causing a confusion....my point with the pic i posted was just a sample of how i thought i had exposed for the foreground and it ended up being the background (ie the sky)...i don't want to use this pic for an HDR i just know that in HDR discussions people say to make 2 exposures (1 sky and 1 foreground) and combine...i thought i did foreground but got background and was confused...i think what i need is the exposure lock that tonylong mentions...that way, i focus on my foreground subject, lock exposure and reposition the camera....that's what i should have done with the posted pic to make sure i actually had the correct exposure for the foreground...

thanks for the help, the tips and links have been great...i love this forum...




  
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Jun 19, 2008 23:15 |  #18

What metering mode do you have the camera in?

It is really impossible to get a good overall exposure for the situation in your posted image without using flash. As you can see, the trees in the background are pretty well exposed, the sky is blown out and the subjects are dark. With a flash, you could have at least gotten the subjects well exposed and either kept the sky or trees properly exposed as well.

With an ETTL flash, you'd want to use manual (camera), set your camera exposure based on the trees or sky, and let the ETTL do the work in getting the subjects exposed properly.

To get the girls properly exposed on your sample without flash, you'd probably need to spot meter on a face. Most of the rest of the image would be terribly blown out then though.

One thing that may help with locking exposure for situations like this where you are not shooting manual is to separate the AF from the shutter button and use that for exposure lock. See this thread for that.


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Jun 20, 2008 18:01 |  #19

thanks DDCSD...reading it now...




  
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