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Jun 16, 2008 22:01 |  #1

These aren't my pictures, but I was hoping someone knowledgable on the subject would be able to identify these. Someone on a VA car forum posted these up, seen in Suffolk, VA.....to be specific. He said these are two different snakes, one was more yellow than the other.....

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Jun 16, 2008 22:26 |  #2

Were they supposed to be native VA snakes? Because I can't think of any native U.S. snake that they look like. They look like some sort of viper, but not any native one I can think of.

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Jun 16, 2008 22:39 |  #3

Looking online, the Eastern Cottonmouth can have that kind of spotting, but I can't find one with that yellow cast to it....It's not a rattler so any of the diamondbacks, copperheads etc. are not going to fit. That is definitely a viper head though. I briefly thought about Hognose snake, but the head design doesn't fit that species either...Now I'm curious! and I'm definitely NOT a snake lover! :D


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Jun 16, 2008 22:52 |  #4

I've seen a few cottonmouths in my day, and that does not look like any of them!!! Usually, the adults are not nearly that colorful, and that head is huge!!!

I'm not Steve Irwin (obviously) but given the markings, and snakes penchant for camouflage, I would guess that is some kind of tree viper. Not from these parts, as they say.

Is that an aquarium I see in picture #2?


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Jun 16, 2008 23:16 as a reply to  @ mattograph's post |  #5

Ok, the OP in the thread I took these pics from has posted again.......apparently these are what he claims to be a southern variation of a Timber Rattle Snake (aka Canebrake Rattler). They are captive.......and were actually used for tracking and research.

Digging more info as I can from the OP. My only problem is that these look nothing like the "southern" Timber Rattler's I have seen.......which are between the color combo's of a southern Copperhead and an Eastern Diamondback Rattler.


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Jun 16, 2008 23:40 |  #6

mattograph wrote in post #5735031 (external link)
I've seen a few cottonmouths in my day, and that does not look like any of them!!! Usually, the adults are not nearly that colorful, and that head is huge!!!

I'm not Steve Irwin (obviously) but given the markings, and snakes penchant for camouflage, I would guess that is some kind of tree viper. Not from these parts, as they say.

Is that an aquarium I see in picture #2?

I agree! All of the cotton mouths I have seen are black with no markings...other than the white mouth!! :) but the pictures I was seeing online had that spotting on some of them...I didn't see a rattle on the end of the snake either so the Timber or anything along that line doesn't work either....I'll be curious to find out what this is!


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Jun 16, 2008 23:43 as a reply to  @ sidx001's post |  #7

Ok, I guess the OP just wanted to pull some people's legs on the local forum. The snakes are Ethiopian.......his friend apparently owns them. Good job to whoever classified them as a viper.....

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Jun 17, 2008 06:32 |  #8

Huh! Way cool! As I said before, I don't particularly like snakes, but this one just looks vicious! thanks for the clarification!


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Jun 17, 2008 06:45 as a reply to  @ sidx001's post |  #9

How come our snakes can't be yellow and black?!?!

I could far more easily avoid that sucker when tromping around in the woods than I can a rattler or cottonmouth hidden in the rocks/leaves.

Never been to Ethiopia, but if a bright yellow/black snake is camoflauged there, I'm thinking it' must be a bit like Disneyland on acid! :D


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Jun 17, 2008 07:46 |  #10

LW Dail wrote in post #5736643 (external link)
How come our snakes can't be yellow and black?!?!

I could far more easily avoid that sucker when tromping around in the woods than I can a rattler or cottonmouth hidden in the rocks/leaves.

Never been to Ethiopia, but if a bright yellow/black snake is camoflauged there, I'm thinking it' must be a bit like Disneyland on acid! :D

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Jun 19, 2008 18:19 as a reply to  @ mattograph's post |  #11

It looks like a member of the Bitis family - a puff adder - African.

Bitis parviocula my guess.

Handsome - but dangerous - a bite is likely to go gangrenous.




  
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Jun 19, 2008 18:27 |  #12

boipevassu wrote in post #5754958 (external link)
It looks like a member of the Bitis family - a puff adder - African.

Bitis parviocula my guess.

Handsome - but dangerous - a bite is likely to go gangrenous.

and don't forget hurt like hell.........


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Jun 19, 2008 20:27 |  #13

You can usually tell if a snake is a viper by the shape of their heads.


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May 12, 2011 00:26 |  #14

Just came across this forum and thread through the internet.

The snake in question is Bitis parviocula or the Ethiopian Mountain Adder. Highly venomous, not much is known about this species, or their venom and their bites. They are found in remote parts of South-west Ethiopia, so not many bites have been reported.

Starbugs78 wrote in post #5755711 (external link)
You can usually tell if a snake is a viper by the shape of their heads.



I disagree with that. There are viper species out there that do not have triangular heads.




  
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May 13, 2011 06:22 |  #15

and non venomous snakes can have triangular heads....

mattograph, be glad you aren't steve irwin, you'd be dead!


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