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Dec 30, 2004 06:50 |  #1

I've looked around, and can't find a really good Pro's/Con's for the two standards.

When should I use AdobeRGB ( with a 10D )?


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Dec 30, 2004 07:20 |  #2

Take photos and process them in AdobeRGB. Print and web-display them in sRGB.


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Dec 30, 2004 07:27 |  #3

Short and to the point... I love it...

Thanks Scottes.

I've also now found some other posts on this forum which give more info. That will teach me to do lazy searches :)


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Dec 30, 2004 08:07 |  #4

http://www.shootsmarte​r.com/infocenter/wc025​.html (external link)

google too ;)

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Dec 30, 2004 08:24 as a reply to  @ blinking8s's post |  #5

I use an Epson 2200 which has a color gamut larger then sRGB, so I shoot RAW with Adobe RGB selected( you can change your mind later in conversion), develop to Adobe RGB in Raw conversion, and print in Adobe RGB.
Most web applications are not color managed and your pictures will look washed out on the web unless you use sRGB.
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Dec 30, 2004 08:26 |  #6

It sounds like selecting AdobeRGB on the camera gives you more options (greater colour range)... but you just need to convert it before saving for the web?


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Dec 30, 2004 08:30 as a reply to  @ poke's post |  #7

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It sounds like selecting AdobeRGB on the camera gives you more options (greater colour range)... but you just need to convert it before saving for the web?

Yes. When you want to put a file on the web, you usually do a few things. You downsize it, convert it to jpeg if it isn't, and convert it to sRGB. This is fairly easy to do. In PS go to File>Save for WEB . You make some selections about quality and size. I use Jpeg/medium and set my longest side to 800.
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Dec 30, 2004 08:34 |  #8

Gotcha... Thanks


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Dec 30, 2004 08:50 as a reply to  @ scottbergerphoto's post |  #9

scottbergerphoto wrote:
Yes. When you want to put a file on the web, you usually do a few things. You downsize it, convert it to jpeg if it isn't, and convert it to sRGB. This is fairly easy to do. In PS go to File>Save for WEB . You make some selections about quality and size. I use Jpeg/medium and set my longest side to 800.
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Just as an added note, make sure to convert to sRGB before converting to JPEG with the "Save for WEB" command.


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Dec 30, 2004 11:52 as a reply to  @ PacAce's post |  #10

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Just as an added note, make sure to convert to sRGB before converting to JPEG with the "Save for WEB" command.

I use the save for web command for all my web photos and never convert to sRGB before doing it. My photos on the web look like they should. When I open those photos up in PS, they no longer are recognized as Adobe RGB. Am I missing something?
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Dec 30, 2004 12:31 |  #11

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Try taking a photo in Adobe RGB with some strong cyans or purples and go to Save For Web. Check and uncheck the ICC check box. You should see the colors shift. I'd really wonder what was happening if they didn't - though it is possible that your image stays well within the gamuts of both ARGB & sRGB.


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Dec 30, 2004 12:45 as a reply to  @ Scottes's post |  #12

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Try taking a photo in Adobe RGB with some strong cyans or purples and go to Save For Web. Check and uncheck the ICC check box. You should see the colors shift. I'd really wonder what was happening if they didn't - though it is possible that your image stays well within the gamuts of both ARGB & sRGB.

I don't save it with the ICC profile(I leave the box unchecked) when I save for web. That must be why.
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Dec 30, 2004 12:46 as a reply to  @ scottbergerphoto's post |  #13

scottbergerphoto wrote:
I use the save for web command for all my web photos and never convert to sRGB before doing it. My photos on the web look like they should. When I open those photos up in PS, they no longer are recognized as Adobe RGB. Am I missing something?
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Yes you are, Scott,the ICC profile. When you Save to Web without converting, the image is still in Adobe RGB, but the profile is not saved. So, when you go display the image on your screen, sRGB is assumed and changes the color of your image. The change may be subtle or very noticeable, depending on the colors in the image and saturation.

BTW, even if you save the image with the ICC profile checked, the image will still display on the web browser as if it were an sRGB image and possibly causing the colors to shift because the browser ignores the ICC profile saved with the image.


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Dec 30, 2004 14:12 |  #14

Leo,

Scott does this, but he's saying that the colors *don't* shift. I don't understand how this is - whenever I do Save For Web on an AdobeRGB image I get color shifts, so I've learned to convert to sRGB and then do Save For Web. I'm confused why Scott doesn't see color shifts.


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Dec 30, 2004 14:50 as a reply to  @ Scottes's post |  #15

Scottes wrote:
Leo,

Scott does this, but he's saying that the colors *don't* shift. I don't understand how this is - whenever I do Save For Web on an AdobeRGB image I get color shifts, so I've learned to convert to sRGB and then do Save For Web. I'm confused why Scott doesn't see color shifts.

That's a good question although with some images, it's hard to tell that there's been a color shift unless you are looking at the two images side by side.

Also, when you do a "Save for WEB", the actual image that was saved is not shown in PS so you really can't tell what the image looks like until you open it up to view it. The original image that the web image was saved from is not affected by the "Save for WEB" operation.


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