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Jan 14, 2005 20:39 as a reply to  @ post 365325 |  #31

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Take photos and process them in AdobeRGB. Print and web-display them in sRGB.

'scuse me guys.... Heady stuff, this conversion info. Scottes, I have PS set to Adobe RGB, and have just set my Canon S800 printer to Adobe RGB on Canon's advice, as the images were not printing as expected. Although I have yet to try the new setting, I am curious as to why you suggest that printing should be done in sRGB. I should explain, my printer was earlier set to "CNBJPRN" by default in colour management.
All in all, a very educational debate for those of us less familiar with the vexing issue of colour profiles and management issues. Not having ever posted images on the web, that aspect is totally new to me.
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Jan 14, 2005 20:55 as a reply to  @ IainB's post |  #32

IainB wrote:
'scuse me guys.... Heady stuff, this conversion info. Scottes, I have PS set to Adobe RGB, and have just set my Canon S800 printer to Adobe RGB on Canon's advice, as the images were not printing as expected. Although I have yet to try the new setting, I am curious as to why you suggest that printing should be done in sRGB. I should explain, my printer was earlier set to "CNBJPRN" by default in colour management.
All in all, a very educational debate for those of us less familiar with the vexing issue of colour profiles and management issues. Not having ever posted images on the web, that aspect is totally new to me.
IainB

I process my images in PSCS using Adobe RGB. I then convert to sRGB before I post the images up on the web. However, siince my printer, i9900, has a wider color gamut than sRGB provides for, I print all my images on it using the Adobe RGB color space. There are a lot of printers, however, tthat can only print using the sRGB color space. Images processed in Adobe RGB will have to converted to sRGB before they can be printed on these sRGB printers.


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Jan 14, 2005 21:18 as a reply to  @ PacAce's post |  #33

Thanks PaceAce. Nicely explained! I look forward to achieving some better prints.
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Jan 14, 2005 22:53 as a reply to  @ post 380130 |  #34

kevinma wrote:
The above's really helpful.
In my 20D manual, they write:

"For normal images, sRGB is recommended."
and
"Adobe RGB... is mainly used for commercial printing and other industrial uses. This setting is not recommended if you do not know about image processing, Adobe RGB, and Design rule for Camera File System 2.0 (Exif 2.21). Since the image will look very subdued with sRGB personal computers and printers not compatible with Design rule for Camera File System 2.0 (Exif 2.21), post-processing of the image with software will be required."

Why do they make these statements?
Does it have anything to do with shooting in RAW vs JPG? Does shooting in Adobe RGB matter less for the latter?
Kevin.

Design rule for Camera File System (DCF) 2.0 and Exif 2.21 set standards for sharing and annotating image data transferred between different devices and applications (cameras, printers, Photoshop, etc.). The older standards centered on universal exchange of sRGB image data. The newer standard referred to in the 20D manual includes provisions for sRGB and Adobe RGB color space files.

The basic manual advice is good. Canon 10D/20D and 1 Series cameras can capture JPEGs in sRGB and Adobe RGB color spaces. If you don't want to bother with color management issues, use sRGB.

If you shoot RAW, you choose the color space (sRGB, Adobe RGB, ProPhoto RGB, etc) at the time of RAW conversion to JPEG or TIFF files during post processing. The embedded or associated JPEG captured with that same RAW image is in the color space set in the camera menu (sRGB or Adobe RGB).

Finallly, some Canon camera JPEG images may be recognized by Photoshop as "untagged" as if they don't have an associated color space. These are actually Adobe RGB files. Only Canon can explain and defend this apparent oddity.


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