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Jun 17, 2008 11:27 |  #1

I recently did an event in a low light reception hall where the lighting was real low and real yellow, my white balance was on auto, using my 580EX. most or my pictures have a yellow hew and cast to them. Now i am thinking if i woul dhave set the White balance to tungsten and used some kind of filter on the 580ex my colors would have been better and the yellow color cast wouldnt have been there. AM I RIGHT. or way if

Either way could some one explain to me how to shoot in low ligh twith the 580EX and not get the yellow cast on my pictures. and if i am right, what kind of filters to i use on the 580ex, point me in the direction, I am fine with studio strobes but this 580 always gives me a hard time.

some on ehelp me out as i have a few more events in the next couple weeks in the same lighting and i dont want to have to convert all the white balance in lightroom again. I shoot raw. Thanks fo rth ehelp.


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Jun 17, 2008 11:29 |  #2

I'm no expert but I'd suggest setting your white balance manually.


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Jun 17, 2008 11:31 |  #3

Step 1: Gel your flash to match the ambient color temperature. This means a CTO gel if the ambient is tungsten.
Step 2: Adjust your white balance for the gelled flash (if you're shooting RAW, you can do this in post). A good reference target like a WhiBal card or Ed Pierce calibration target would be a good investment.


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Jun 17, 2008 11:39 |  #4

Curtis N wrote in post #5738240 (external link)
Step 1: Gel your flash to match the ambient color temperature. This means a CTO gel if the ambient is tungsten.
Step 2: Adjust your white balance for the gelled flash (if you're shooting RAW, you can do this in post). A good reference target like a WhiBal card or Ed Pierce calibration target would be a good investment.

right but can you explain this as if some one didnt know what you were talking about, I am use to shooting well light stuff so i have never learned this stuff yet,


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Jun 17, 2008 11:41 |  #5

Curtis N wrote in post #5738240 (external link)
Step 1: Gel your flash to match the ambient color temperature. This means a CTO gel if the ambient is tungsten.
Step 2: Adjust your white balance for the gelled flash (if you're shooting RAW, you can do this in post). A good reference target like a WhiBal card or Ed Pierce calibration target would be a good investment.

what filters would i need, where a good place to buy them , how would i know what to se t the white balance to, based of the gel, i know i sound stupid but this part is new to me. I have a whibal card, do i just shoot my reference and fix it in lightroon or cs3, i would rather have it as close to right in camera first.


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Jun 17, 2008 12:10 |  #6

Try to get your hands on one of these swatchbooks:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_Roscolux_Swatc​hbook.html (external link)
The good news is they're almost free, and are sized nicely for a flash unit. The bad news is they're often out of stock. Worst case, you can buy a 20 x 24 sheet of CTO gel from B&H for a few bucks. It's enough to last the duration of your photographic career. mpex.com sells some reasonably-priced gel kits, too.

CTO stands for "color temperature orange". It shifts the color temp of a daylight-balanced light source (your flash) to something resembling tungsten. Here's an article about it:
http://strobist.blogsp​ot.com …sing-gels-to-correct.html (external link)

Setting your white balance in the camera to tungsten will get you in the ball park. Otherwise, take a reference shot with the WhiBal card and then use Lightroom's color temp eyedropper to set the white balance on that shot, then sync the white balance with the whole set of images.


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Jun 17, 2008 14:16 |  #7

I think Curtis's last suggestion is the simplest method. If I don't have a white balance card with me, I'll shoot something in the room that I know is white and use that as my reference point. I always shoot in RAW, and then Lightroom makes it easy to set the white balance for a collection of images.


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Jun 17, 2008 15:02 |  #8

cool thanks so much, i have been reading over some of the stuff in his signature as well, makes it a little simpler, thanks again


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