camera vs lens question

Considering the low light capabilities of the camera bodies of today and great high ISO performances- what is the future of fast lens' in the DSLR market?

Higher ISO capabilities do allow faster shutter speeds in low light situations but they do not give shallow DOF, fast lenses do...

There is no electronic substitute for good glass..

The futures so bright--we ought to wear shades

Hermeto wrote in post #5743510
There is no electronic substitute for good glass..

That is true...
However lenses could produce even better images at lower cost, if it was not seen necessary to fully correct them for distortion, CA and vignetting.
An otherwise exceptionally sharp and contrasty optic that fails in these areas can be corrected quite automatically with the matching software.

I suspect this will become the norm in days to come.

Terrywoodenpic wrote in post #5743770
That is true...
However lenses could produce even better images at lower cost, if it was not seen necessary to fully correct them for distortion, CA and vignetting.
An otherwise exceptionally sharp and contrasty optic that fails in these areas can be corrected quite automatically with the matching software.

I suspect this will become the norm in days to come.

Of course, you are right, it all goes hand in hand.

Lenses themselves are more and more computerized these days, more than ever before.
4 stops Image Stabilization is not a small thing, it’s high tech electronics..

There was a discussion about the continuing benefit of fast lenses in the world of high ISO performing bodies in the June Outdoor Photographer issue.

The article is here is anyone is interested in reading it.

ps249,
Thats like saying because the manipulating capabilities of Photoshop or PhotoPaint what are the future of cameras and lenses? You can mimic shallow DOF in software, you can mimic sharpness (to a degree), you can mimic color accuracy, you can mimic Ultra Wide angles, etc.......... and the list goes on and on and yet we still have good cameras and good glass.

Good Thing

Terrywoodenpic wrote in post #5743770
That is true...
However lenses could produce even better images at lower cost, if it was not seen necessary to fully correct them for distortion, CA and vignetting.
An otherwise exceptionally sharp and contrasty optic that fails in these areas can be corrected quite automatically with the matching software.

I suspect this will become the norm in days to come.

I take it that you are predicting something like DXO Optics pro as an in camera function? http://dxo.com …clusive_feature​s/overview
The camera knows what lens it is mounted with, applies the appropriate correction factors then wrights the image to the card. I think that it would require a lot more processing power than is currently in cameras and it would really slow down the rate at which photos can be taken. However it could be done, and some forward looking Camera Company will probably do it. It would also tend to help insure brand loyalty for OEM lenses.

Wayne

dave kadolph wrote in post #5743732
The futures so bright--we ought to wear shades

haha good one:p

The future of fast lenses is solid. Until high ISO can produce sommth-as-a-baby's-bottom image, there will be no substitute for fast lenses.

On the creative side, one will never get the beautiful, creamy, smooth bokeh the 85 f/1.2 or the 135 f/2.0 get with a similar length f/5.6 lens. One can add gaussian blur in PP, but just ain't the same...

ps249 wrote in post #5743371
Considering the low light capabilities of the camera bodies of today and great high ISO performances- what is the future of fast lens' in the DSLR market?

Canon's Auto Focus does not work exceptionally well unless the lens is open to f2.8 or wider (read the white papers). Also it is not much fun looking through an f4 lens...

pcunite wrote in post #5755021
Canon's Auto Focus does not work exceptionally well unless the lens is open to f2.8 or wider (read the white papers). Also it is not much fun looking through an f4 lens...

Thank you pcunite. Until now I thought I was the only one left who enjoys looking through an SLR, and appreciates a focused photo. Maybe we're crazy and the rest of the world is normal. Besides, manual focus doesn't work
exceptionally well above f2.8 either.

dave kadolph wrote in post #5743732
The futures so bright--we ought to wear shades

Not in the UK at the moment...

All I can say to all of those that have used the 'never' in their post - one of the many things life has taught me is to never say 'never'.

Having said that, I personally don't think there's any substitute for good fast glass - at the moment