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Jun 28, 2008 06:37 |  #46

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You obviously don't watch enough of those CCTV real-life footage shows on TV. ;) There was one on recently about thefts from airport security line checks. Here's how they do it:

Two guys work the queue as a team. They spot someone (the mark) in the queue whose stuff they want to steal (big bag, laptop etc).

One of them gets ahead in the queue and the other gets in front of the mark. The one in the lead goes through the walk-through xray thing no problem and stands next to the conveyor (pretending to wait for bags, which he doesn't have).

The one in the front of the mark has something in his pocket which he knows will set off the alarm (coins, keys, whatever). He then times his walk-through perfectly; he waits until the mark has put his bag on the conveyor behind, then walks through. The alarm goes off and he gets asked to be searched which he willingly does. This holds up the queue and the poor mark has to wait in line whilst his bag goes through the xray machine and is collected by the awaiting accomplice.

I was absolutely amazed that people would have the balls (stupidity) to do this in the one place where there is more security and guns than any place on the planet.

Which is why I never put my bags through the XRay until it's MY turn to go through the metal detector. I've physically restrained the TSA (IOW, not let go...) from putting my stuff through before it was my turn.

Also, I always put my shoes through first and my empty laptop bag through last so my laptop and camera bag are bookended.

I fly (US Domestic) twice a week for 35-45 weekends a year and have never had an issue.


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Jun 28, 2008 07:09 |  #47

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Funny how perceptions work...

Most professional pilots will tell you (off the record) that flying is great except for the passengers and schedule part...


:lol:

Or that it is great except for the sitting up there getting bored on long hauls part :)

Or that Airbus is clearly better (i agree) because they can actually eat properly :)


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Jun 28, 2008 07:17 |  #48

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Or that it is great except for the sitting up there getting bored on long hauls part :)

Or that Airbus is clearly better (i agree) because they can actually eat properly :)

Nice of Airbus' engineering to include snack trays, eh? ;)


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Jul 01, 2008 16:29 as a reply to  @ FlyingPhotog's post |  #49

For tips on how to get through airport security quickly, easily and safely, I was recently featured on ABC News' Good Morning America detailing the simplest way to deal with airport security, while also protecting yourself from the likely hood of being the target of a thief.

You can watch the segment on Good Morning America here:
http://www.youtube.com​/v/8Gm7UZa6FkY (external link)


You can also read some of my tips for getting through airport security on my blog for flying photogs, Flying With Fish (external link), here:
http://flyingwithfish.​blogspot.com …screening-system-get.html (external link)


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Jul 01, 2008 20:42 |  #50

The Fish is Wise .. The Fish is Good

Be the Fish... ;)


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Jul 01, 2008 21:45 |  #51

Flying,

You wanna be 'The Fish' for me this week?

I have a 6:00am flight out of JFK tomorrow (wed) AM for a commercial shoot in DC; a 7:20am flight out of DC Thurs AM for Charlotte for a quick meeting; afternoon flight out of Charlotte on Thurs for San Francisco for a wedding in San Francisco on Friday; a 10:35pm flight out of San Francisco on Friday that lands in Philly at 7:00am on Saturday for a wedding Saturday in Philly starting at Noon to Midnight and a 5:30am Amtrak back to New York to pick up my car on Sunday morning for the 2+hr drive home from New York.............PLEAS​E be the Fish this week:0)

Tomorrow, checking one bag to DC, then DHL will bring it safely home so the rest of my journey will be done in a North Face Surge backpack and a Think Tank Skin kit

(note to self, schedule in a shower)


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Jul 02, 2008 00:34 |  #52

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Flying,

You wanna be 'The Fish' for me this week?

I have a 6:00am flight out of JFK tomorrow (wed) AM for a commercial shoot in DC; a 7:20am flight out of DC Thurs AM for Charlotte for a quick meeting; afternoon flight out of Charlotte on Thurs for San Francisco for a wedding in San Francisco on Friday; a 10:35pm flight out of San Francisco on Friday that lands in Philly at 7:00am on Saturday for a wedding Saturday in Philly starting at Noon to Midnight and a 5:30am Amtrak back to New York to pick up my car on Sunday morning for the 2+hr drive home from New York.............PLEAS​E be the Fish this week:0)

Tomorrow, checking one bag to DC, then DHL will bring it safely home so the rest of my journey will be done in a North Face Surge backpack and a Think Tank Skin kit


(note to self, schedule in a shower)

Hell that ain't nothin...

I've been living out of one suitcase and (only) a Slingshot 300AW for three weeks now (over half my gear is in the cabinet at home...my wife swears she can hear it whimpering...)

PHX to SFO to PHX (20 Hr Pitstop at home) to CLT to MHT to CLT to DAB to ATL to PHX (for a day) to ORD to PHX and then, FREEDOM!!! :lol:

I bow to your frequency but I'll raise you my weekly duration!! And to think I used to do all 40 weeks of the NASCAR tour.

Travel Safe. I know I don't have to tell you but the airlines are getting really, well, weird these days. I have a sneaking suspicion that by this time next year, we're gonna be down a major carrier or two.

But, while traveling, we get to see things like this:

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Jul 02, 2008 00:40 as a reply to  @ post 5753964 |  #53

When my partner and I travel together, I send him through first and he watches the camera and laptop as they come thorugh while I am being 'scanned'. If you have a travel companion this is pretty foolproof. I take a hard aluminium case (it fits in the cabin luggage guidelines) and have never had a problem.


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Jul 02, 2008 00:46 |  #54

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I bow to your frequency but I'll raise you my weekly duration!! And to think I used to do all 40 weeks of the NASCAR tour.


After a year of typically doing this every week
PVD-ATL-SFO-LAS-CVG-PVD (in 28hrs)
PVD-ATL-SFO-LAS-CVG-PVD (in 28hrs)
PVD-ATL-SFO-LAS-CVG-PVD (in 28hrs)
(yes I know I typed the same thing 3 times)

or in other terms, 5,856 air miles every other day, each week while shooting, or some variation that was always over 12,000 miles, but usually under 21,000 miles each week for a year I decided I didn't feel like doing it any more. On more than one occasion I ended up scheduling myself to shoot in 3 time-zones in a single day and catch the red-eye home to hang out with my kids the next day......then I'd wake up and do it all over again.

This routine was done with a roughly 70lbs Think Tank Airport Addicted backpack on my back (there was no roller version in 2005) and a fully loaded mobile location studio kit that weighed in at 48lbs in a Pro Roller II to shoot high profile images for the magazine I was working with as the Dir of Photo.

My back was done, my creative energy was completely wiped away from me and I decided I liked my kids more than staring at the back of a blue leather seat every other day and chatting with the very friendly ladies at the SFO Delta Crown Room :lol:


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Jul 02, 2008 00:50 |  #55

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After a year of typically doing this every week
PVD-ATL-SFO-LAS-CVG-PVD (in 28hrs)
PVD-ATL-SFO-LAS-CVG-PVD (in 28hrs)
PVD-ATL-SFO-LAS-CVG-PVD (in 28hrs)
(yes I know I typed the same thing 3 times)

or in other terms, 5,856 air miles every other day, each week while shooting, or some variation that was always over 12,000 miles, but usually under 21,000 miles each week for a year I decided I didn't feel like doing it any more.

This routine was done with a roughly 70lbs Think Tank Airport Addicted backpack on my back (there was no roller version in 2005) and a fully loaded mobile location studio kit that weighed in at 48lbs in a Pro Roller II.

My back was done, my creative energy was completely wiped away from me and I decided I liked my kids more than staring at the back of a blue leather seat every other day and chatting with the very friendly ladies at the SFO Delta Crown Room :lol:

I hear you...

I'm very ready to cut up my Frequent Flyer cards and just stay home...

(I hearby acknowledge that Fish is "Da Man" when it comes to boaring holes in the sky...)

Your travel tips are definately worth while. You ought to be your own sticky (and write a book..which you probably have already done...)


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Jul 02, 2008 03:46 |  #56

If its a job you can Puralator or UPS.


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Jul 02, 2008 08:07 |  #57

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Your travel tips are definately worth while. You ought to be your own sticky (and write a book..which you probably have already done...)

I have a 1.5 year old who makes enough stickies (where the heck would I put the sticky?My desk?)

......and ask me about the book again in about 10 days............or drop me a PM


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Jul 03, 2008 19:30 |  #58

POTN delivers again! I wanted to find some info about taking camera gear onto a plane as hand-luggage and this thread popped up!

Thanks all :)


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Jul 04, 2008 03:46 |  #59

For those of you who think nobody's gonna steal stuff at a checkpoint: it came out in the news in the last couple of days that tens of thousands of laptops go missing in U.S. airports every year. A major fraction of those are stolen at checkpoints. (Surprised me too; I knew about the two-guy scam but thought it was a thing of the past.)

I agree with the advice of not putting stuff through the machine until the detector is clear (the post-2001 security systems make it much easier to keep line cutters out of the picture), preceding and following the "good stuff" with the shoes and coats that nobody wants to steal, and keeping a sharp eye if you're detained.

Two other bits of advice: I avoid being detained by removing ALL metal from my body. I keep an empty Ziploc in my carryon for that purpose. Usually I fill it up with my pocket contents and watch while I'm in the cab to the airport. The belt comes off too, so that when I go through security the only metal on my body is the rivets in my jeans and the frames in my glasses. Then I walk through the detector very slowly (older ones were speed-sensitive, though I don't know about the new ones). I haven't beeped in many years.

My other bit of advice is that my camera bag is locked. Sometimes they want to look inside, but dammit, they're not opening it until I'm present and watching. You don't need the fancy TSA locks, since you're right there, so they have little choice except to politely ask you to open it.

Oh, and as to batteries: some rechargeable types are prone to fire, so you can't check them in luggage unless they're removed from your equipment, but I believe that there' s no need to tape contacts. Carryon is fine; I think they figure you'll notice the smoke. :-) And those Brits who confiscated AA's? Figures; remember these are the folks who wouldn't let you even bring a paperback book for a while. I've resolved to avoid ever departing the UK on an aircraft again, or at least until they develop a better sense of proportion.


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Jul 04, 2008 09:25 |  #60

For details on exactly how many airport thieves operate, and how to protect yourself check out the following links on Flying With Fish. The information I have not only comes from spending quite a while observing in airports,but also speaking with law enforcement and most importantly.......actu​ally seeking out and speaking with people who make their living working as airport thieves.

03/03/08 - Theft At Airport Security Check Points - Don't Be A Victim!
http://flyingwithfish.​blogspot.com …ecurity-check-points.html (external link)

06/04/2008 - Protect Your Bags & Property With Two Simple Items
http://flyingwithfish.​blogspot.com …gs-property-with-two.html (external link)


11/04/2008 - Protect Yourself From In-Flight Theft
http://flyingwithfish.​blogspot.com …from-in-flight-theft.html (external link)

6/05/2008 - Protecting Your Bags In The Airports 101 – Part 1
http://flyingwithfish.​blogspot.com …bags-in-airports-101.html (external link)

7/05/2008 - Protecting Your Bags In The Airports 101 – Part 2
http://flyingwithfish.​blogspot.com …s-in-airports-101_07.html (external link)

21/05/2008 - Airport Security Screening System : Get Through Security With Ease & Safety
http://flyingwithfish.​blogspot.com …screening-system-get.html (external link)

2/07/2008 - Anatomy Of An Airport Security Checkpoint
http://flyingwithfish.​blogspot.com …-security-checkpoint.html (external link)

..........these links should get any traveler started on planning out their time in an airport, or train station, and how to best protect their equipment.

Happy Flying!


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