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Jun 20, 2008 07:58 |  #16

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So now the effective flash range (at or below sync speed) is ~280 feet!


I guess if you consider the distance (which I didn't) then you're probably right - it wouldn't be likely to cause a distraction.

Thanks for the advice guys.


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Jun 20, 2008 08:08 |  #17

You're right, there isn't, and I might. I just assumed that having someone flash a bright light at them would be distracting and annoying.

Maybe if you were right in their face, but at 30+ feet, I don't see a problem.
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Jun 20, 2008 14:42 |  #18

[QUOTE=AdamC;5757585]T​hanks Kipax. F/2.8 was nowhere near enough (1/100 when I was lucky, which wasn't often, mostly 1/20 - 1/30) on my body, which only does ISO 1600. I happily acknowledge that the 400D isn't a sports body - I guess I was hoping to know whether 3200 or 6400 on a 1d would do the trick.[/quote]

You have to pick your spot. Stand directly under a light and wait for the shot.
This is with a 1D mkIII and 300 f2.8. I think its's at 1/400 @ f2.8, ISO 6400, custom white balance in DPP, a smidge of NR (+1 on chroma and luma) and a bit of a crop.


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Jun 20, 2008 20:26 |  #19

bildeb0rg wrote in post #5760301 (external link)
This is with a 1D mkIII and 300 f2.8. I think its's at 1/400 @ f2.8, ISO 6400, custom white balance in DPP, a smidge of NR (+1 on chroma and luma) and a bit of a crop.

Thanks for posting that bildeb0rg, that's exactly what I was looking for. Demonstrates clearly that saleable shots are possible in that situation. I'll definitely look into the flash options though, while I'm working on the funding for a 1D + 2.8 tele :)


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Jun 21, 2008 06:02 |  #20

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Thanks for posting that bildeb0rg, that's exactly what I was looking for. Demonstrates clearly that saleable shots are possible in that situation. I'll definitely look into the flash options though, while I'm working on the funding for a 1D + 2.8 tele :)

No problem.
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As for flash, given the nature of football/soccer, expect to be blamed for every miss kick and dodgy tackle on the park.
You could try shooting in RAW, deliberately underexpose by 2 stops, and pull it back in DPP. A liberal dose of NR, et voila, useable results for no extra cost.
This is with my old 400D and 300 f2.8. in manual mode, 1/200 wide open, ISO 1600, custom WB, +1.5 expoasure, +5 croma, +5 luma, again cropped.


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Jun 21, 2008 06:50 |  #21

bildeb0rg wrote in post #5763479 (external link)
You could try shooting in RAW, deliberately underexpose by 2 stops, and pull it back in DPP. A liberal dose of NR, et voila, useable results for no extra cost.
This is with my old 400D and 300 f2.8. in manual mode, 1/200 wide open, ISO 1600, custom WB, +1.5 expoasure, +5 croma, +5 luma, again cropped.


Yes I tried that - underexposed by 1 stop, but the results had so much noise that even Noise Ninja struggled to remove it. Some pictures were salvageable, but many weren't.


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Jun 21, 2008 07:47 |  #22

Shame. Looks like the lotto then, or marry a rich widow...;)




  
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Jun 21, 2008 08:23 |  #23

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Shame. Looks like the lotto then, or marry a rich widow...;)


heh, about equal chance either way. :)


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