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Jun 21, 2008 11:07 |  #1

What do you set your EOS on for outside photography?


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Jun 21, 2008 11:19 |  #2

Depends on the conditions and the shot. There is no one setting that covers all outside photography. Maybe if you narrow the request a bit, well maybe a little more than a bit. Possible post an example of a picture you are unhappy with and folks can make suggestions.


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Jun 21, 2008 11:30 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #3

How about one setting for a sunny day and one for a dark day for when it is about to rain. My theory is

Sunny day ISO 800
Cloudy ISO 1000


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Jun 21, 2008 11:32 |  #4

sunny day 100-400 iso.

800 and youll be overexposing.




  
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Jun 21, 2008 11:36 |  #5

jbcohen wrote in post #5764718 (external link)
How about one setting for a sunny day and one for a dark day for when it is about to rain. My theory is

Sunny day ISO 800
Cloudy ISO 1000

I guess we can keep the ISO as low as possible if there is enough light. ISO 100 on a sunny day and a diff ISO (if needed) based on the amount of light. We have to concentrate more on Aperture and Shutter speed than ISO i believe. Try to get a copy of "Understanding Exposure", a very good book for beginner. I'm still half way through this book, worth reading.


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Jun 21, 2008 11:37 as a reply to  @ Dan Lorth's post |  #6

What would you set the ISO on a cloudy day? Shutter Speed for sunny and cloudy days? Apateur for sunny and cloudy days?


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Jun 21, 2008 11:43 as a reply to  @ jbcohen's post |  #7

Check this thread, jump to section 4, it will get you started (it did get me started ;) )
https://photography-on-the.net ….php?p=284933&p​ostcount=1


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Jun 21, 2008 11:44 |  #8

Sunny 16 rule. It's all you got to know.

Set aperture to f/16. Set the shutter speed to the reciprocal of the ISO.

For instance f/16, ISO 100, shutter 1/100 or f/16 ISO 800, shutter 1/800. If you want top open the shutter, for each stop, add a stop to either the speed or ISO. For instance f/11 (one stop less than f/16) ISO 100, shutter 1/200 and so on.

For cloudy days use the following:
hazy with soft shadows, start at f/11
overcast start with f/8
heavy overcast start with f/5.6

With this rule you can shoot in any outdoor conditions.


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Jun 21, 2008 18:23 |  #9

Dan Lorth wrote in post #5764725 (external link)
sunny day 100-400 iso.

800 and youll be overexposing.

You apparently haven't actually tried this.

I use 800 as my base setting and have taken thousands of shots in sunlight at 800.

Yesterday I was shooting in shade with my 70-300 Sigma at f/5.6 at ISO 3200.

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Jun 21, 2008 19:12 |  #10

number six wrote in post #5766406 (external link)
You apparently haven't actually tried this.

I use 800 as my base setting and have taken thousands of shots in sunlight at 800.

Yesterday I was shooting in shade with my 70-300 Sigma at f/5.6 at ISO 3200.

-js

Yes, I use 800 frequently for sports, especially if it is overcast.

I suppose the OP realizes that outdoors encompasses nearly the whole of photography, really. Everything from astrophotography to sports to weddings to landscapes are shot 'outdoors' and the approach for each will be radically different. There really is no way to give a 'recommended setting' for outdoors.

A better approach:

1. Select your perspective and then a focal length to frame the shot.
2. Meter the scene. Use the camera meter, shoot a shot for the histogram...whatever. Decide what the exposure value (EV) will be for the shot. If it will vary a lot shot to shot in action then consider using one of the camera metered modes, probably Av.
3. Select an aperture value to control the depth of field (DOF) you need for the shot.
4. Select the shutter speed you need to allow handholding, or to freeze action, or to blur motion....whatever the shot needs.
5. Select an ISO value to get to the EV you picked in (2).

If you are forced to use a higher ISO in (5) than your camera can achieve (or which you are happy with for noise) then revisit steps (3) and (4) again. Can you tolerate a shallower DOF and open up the lens? Can you use a tripod (still shots only!) and drop the shutter speed further?

Of the three legs that control exposure the aperture and shutter speed are usually the two most important and thus need to be picked first. ISO typically should be the fallout value to hit the EV, only driving an iteration if it is outside of a tolerable or achievable range.


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Jun 21, 2008 22:08 |  #11

number six wrote in post #5766406 (external link)
You apparently haven't actually tried this.

I use 800 as my base setting and have taken thousands of shots in sunlight at 800.

Yesterday I was shooting in shade with my 70-300 Sigma at f/5.6 at ISO 3200.

-js

you got me ive never put my camera on iso 800 outside. dang youre good man.




  
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