New Canon 6D that is coming out

JeffreyG wrote in post #5772643
And finally you have nailed it. If I can get 1D AF system in a 5D I would die and go to heaven. This is why I think the Nikon D3 (not the D300) is a great camera. The question remains if Canon will ever be willing to put 1D level AF in a high end prosumer like the 5D.

But, according to the photo press, the 40D's 9-point AF is just as quick and, most importantly, equally precise as the 51-point Dxxx array.

If Canon were to equip the new 5DMk2, 4D, or whatever the new body is to be christened with the 40D's AF system or one slightly superior, I'd be ecstatic. Regardless, soon as I have the loot, certainly before 19 July, I'll be grabbing one of those "obsolete" 5Ds!

If the Nikon has all the features you're hoping for, why not just jump ship?

RUMOR SECTION!

If my 5D is still alive when I die, I want to be buried with it. There's some room for improvement, but overall, and especially in the current price range, the 5D is the best buy in the photo world.

Pete

I am a Canon person not Nikon. Hence I stay with Canon. More importantly Canon makes the best lens out of the "big" camera companies. Granted it is no Carl Zeiss but I have seen other cameras with the White lens attached to them. Now that is impressive.

This is no rumour. Canon will have a successor to the 5D by end of summer.

bond007 wrote in post #5772911
I am a Canon person not Nikon. Hence I stay with Canon.

You've redeemed yourself a bit

bond007 wrote in post #5772494
Antiquated is the incorrect word to use. But for a professional or semi professional camera, I would expect features such as:
- different image formats, JPEG and RAW are nice but what about other formats like sRAW?
- More Pixels per its LCD screen than the 230,00 it already has. Nikon has more pixels (I forget the actual count) it makes the display look like a MacIntosh monitor.
- DIGIC III To pump more RAW images and to focus faster especially when engaged in sports or action photography.
- Frames Per second should at least equal the 40D. 3FPS is a joke.
- More AF points. Nikon D300 has 51 which is totally customisable. 5D has only 9 but 6 supplemental.

Do not get me wrong. The 5D takes some stunning pictures better than the Nikon D300 especially when mounted with a L series lens and I can not complain because I only have a 30D with stock lens 28mm-135mm and would love to purchase the 5D BUT when I purchased the 30D, six to 8 months later the 40D came out, I will not make that mistake again.

You forgot one more feature - focus calibration like the Mark IIIs have. That will do it for me!

JeffreyG wrote in post #5772643
And finally you have nailed it. If I can get 1D AF system in a 5D I would die and go to heaven. This is why I think the Nikon D3 (not the D300) is a great camera. The question remains if Canon will ever be willing to put 1D level AF in a high end prosumer like the 5D.

i seriously doubt it. while it seems like a great idea on our own end, it would do some series damage to 1D sales.

i don't even think they'll transfer over the big, bright 100% VF of the 1Ds to the 5D successor.

bond007 wrote in post #5772927
This is no rumour. Canon will have a successor to the 5D by end of summer.

Oh I have no doubt they will have a replacement someday. When is a DEFINITELY UNKNOW date. And since this thread has nothing of substance to offer in the matter, it belongs in the rumor section along with all the other 5D Mark II / 6D talk. Just my opinion.

Even when Canon decides to replace the 5D, it doesn't mean the 5D will stop producing images that seems to pop out of the picture frame. I love my 5D and will take it to my grave (coming from the kid who is a recent "adult"). =)

Seriously, the main reason I bought the 5D over the 40D was because I didn't need all of those extra features and I wanted the best IQ possible when matched with L series lenses like the 17-40 and 70-200

I had the D300 and switched to the 5D with L glass and I'm the happiest man in the world.

Regards

docmarioce wrote in post #5773126
I had the D300 and switched to the 5D with L glass and I'm the happiest man in the world.

Regards

isn't that 17-40 a gem on the 5D =)

bond007 wrote in post #5772494
Antiquated is the incorrect word to use. But for a professional or semi professional camera, I would expect features such as:
- different image formats, JPEG and RAW are nice but what about other formats like sRAW?
- More Pixels per its LCD screen than the 230,00 it already has. Nikon has more pixels (I forget the actual count) it makes the display look like a MacIntosh monitor.
- DIGIC III To pump more RAW images and to focus faster especially when engaged in sports or action photography.
- Frames Per second should at least equal the 40D. 3FPS is a joke.
- More AF points. Nikon D300 has 51 which is totally customisable. 5D has only 9 but 6 supplemental.

Do not get me wrong. The 5D takes some stunning pictures better than the Nikon D300 especially when mounted with a L series lens and I can not complain because I only have a 30D with stock lens 28mm-135mm and would love to purchase the 5D BUT when I purchased the 30D, six to 8 months later the 40D came out, I will not make that mistake again.

I have no use whatsoever for sRAW, I want the maximum information my camera can record so would never use it.

LCD gives me all the data I require, the Nikons may have a better looking one but it doesn't improve the pictures being taken so that means nothing to me.

DIGIC III would be nice but DIGIC II gets the job done just fine. I haven't found anything that the AF can't keep up with that DIGIC III could do better. The 5D tracks falcons diving at 100mph+ which is a pretty good test.

OK, yes, I would like more FPS for certain subjects but in the main 3 FPS is plenty as I usually shoot one frame at a time and judge the moment. On those odd occasions where more FPS is necessary I can use my old 20D.

More AF points would be nice but, again, I am very happy with the current AF system. It gets the job done.

An interesting list of features you put together there, but nothing that actually improves the picture quality. I accept that the next 5D will be a better camera, but I wouldn't be prepared to pay the big difference in price between it and the current 5D for all those new features and (maybe) a tiny incremental improvement in IQ. If I didn't already have a 5D, I would be more than happy to go out and buy the current one tomorrow even if I knew that a new one was just a few weeks away.

The fact that it is still selling very well, despite being about the oldest DSLR in current production, tells us that there are still plenty of people out there who choose a camera based on the quality of the results, rather than which has the latest toys. Anybody buying it today is well aware that a new one is probably not far away, but I doubt when it comes they will be banging their heads saying "damn, if I'd waited I could have had sRAW and a fancier LCD".

The most gizmos doesn't always add up to the best camera.

bond007 wrote in post #5772518
I brought a 30D last year but almost a year later the 40D came out so I felt cheated. I do not see much of a IQ difference between the two (my opinion)

But, to me, you bought at the perfect time. If you buy a camera when it first comes out you pay a premium price for it. Six months in, the prices have dropped a bit and the replacement is still some way off.

The xxD range is replaced on an 18 month cycle, so why feel cheated when a new one comes out almost a year after you buy one. Even if you waited a year and bought the replacement that would still be replaced 18 months later.

bond007 wrote in post #5772518
but the 5D is a lot more expensive and I would be ANGRY if I brought the 5D when the 6D comes out 8 months later. I would not be happy.

I've never understood this logic. If you buy a camera that does the job (and in this case, it does it extremely well) why worry about future models. The current 5D won't suddenly start producing rubbish, you will still have a camera capable of producing top class results. I doubt it's replacement will produce much better but will cost a LOT more to buy. Personally, I would be happy to have saved a bunch of cash to buy a new L lens with.

To me, a new 'L' is better than a few extra features such as sRAW and a better LCD etc.

To me, a current 5D plus an 'L' lens would beat paying the same money for a '6D' body only.