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Pocket Wizards Vs. Radio Poppers

 
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Jun 27, 2008 01:24 |  #31

Your links mention nothing about syncing the signal at precise shutter speeds. A mildly important detail the inventor of RP's figured out.




  
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Jun 27, 2008 01:29 |  #32

jgogums wrote in post #5801033 (external link)
Your links mention nothing about syncing the signal at precise shutter speeds. A mildly important detail the inventor of RP's figured out.

I don't think it's really as big a deal as you're making it. Radio Waves travel at the speed of light, so as long as the latency in the system is low enough, the problem really isn't a problem to begin with: IR signals should be almost instantaneously turned into RF and vice-versa.


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Jun 27, 2008 01:33 |  #33

ok.




  
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Jun 27, 2008 02:24 as a reply to  @ jgogums's post |  #34

[QUOTE]I'm afraid it doesn't. FEC is just about how much light your flash decides to put out, it has nothing to do with what it's capable of. The problem with HSS is that the maximum power of your flash is actually decreased: it has nothing to do with how it's metering the flash./QUOTE]
I don't dispute that, all I know is the flash has more light in HSS when I up the FEC. Whether or not the light is metered up or actually producing more light isn't really that important to me (kinda like ISO) as long as it allows me to use a higher shutter on sunny days and a large aperture when I want, I am a happy camper. I own PW's as well but prefer the RP's for how I shoot.




  
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Jun 27, 2008 08:39 |  #35

somtim wrote in post #5801230 (external link)
I'm afraid it doesn't. FEC is just about how much light your flash decides to put out, it has nothing to do with what it's capable of. The problem with HSS is that the maximum power of your flash is actually decreased: it has nothing to do with how it's metering the flash.]

I don't dispute that, all I know is the flash has more light in HSS when I up the FEC. Whether or not the light is metered up or actually producing more light isn't really that important to me (kinda like ISO) as long as it allows me to use a higher shutter on sunny days and a large aperture when I want, I am a happy camper. I own PW's as well but prefer the RP's for how I shoot.

You will get more light (whether in HSS or not) by upping the FEC only if the flash is not firing at full power. But if it it, then not matter how much FEC you dial in, you're not going to get any more increase in flash output because the flash has already maxed out.


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Jun 27, 2008 08:59 |  #36

I agree that Skyports should be in this debate. They seem to be a viable alternative.


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Jun 30, 2008 11:04 |  #37
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Ok, i change the question :)

Pocket Wizards Vs Radio Poppers Vs Skyports :)

Why do you love the radio poppers? PWizards? SkyPorts?


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Jun 30, 2008 16:48 |  #38

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Jul 17, 2008 15:25 |  #39

will canon ever make flashes with built in capabilities of the radio popper?




  
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Jul 17, 2008 15:28 |  #40

jcanon701 wrote in post #5930601 (external link)
will canon ever make flashes with built in capabilities of the radio popper?

Probably in 20 years, when the patents in question expire...


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Jul 17, 2008 16:11 |  #41

seems like the choise now is to get BOTH radio poppers (when it gets more developed) and pocket wizards. i'm sure there are plenty of pros out there that can afford it. people just starting to learn about wireless strobe will have to stick with one.




  
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Jul 17, 2008 16:15 |  #42

jcanon701 wrote in post #5930601 (external link)
will canon ever make flashes with built in capabilities of the radio popper?

Unlikely, as they'd need to have the radio modules certified in every country in the world.


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Jul 17, 2008 17:04 |  #43

tim wrote in post #5930915 (external link)
Unlikely, as they'd need to have the radio modules certified in every country in the world.

Very good point, every camera/flash would need to be pretty much country-specific, which would increase manufacturing costs unbelievabley.


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Jul 17, 2008 18:46 |  #44

tim wrote in post #5930915 (external link)
Unlikely, as they'd need to have the radio modules certified in every country in the world.

If I were them, I'd go with an add-in module, much smaller than a Radio Popper (preferably something that could fit entirely inside the strobe, so as not to be noticed at all): that could be country specific, and the strobe itself generic. But first they'd have to resolve the patent issues...


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Jul 17, 2008 18:50 |  #45

It's having a transmitter inside the camera that's the problem, I think.


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