Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Small Compact Digitals by Canon 
Thread started 03 Jan 2005 (Monday) 17:03
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

A75 + TimeLapse of Sun = Damage?

 
scorpius
Mostly Lurking
15 posts
Joined Dec 2004
     
Jan 03, 2005 17:03 |  #1

I'm thinking of buying the A75. Will I destroy the CCD if I take repeated pics of the setting sun?

I have a 10 year old apple quicktake digital camera and have made many hour-long time-lapses of the setting sun and there was no damage at all. See my example here:

http://www.redrival.co​m/scorpius/Nov17.m1v (external link)

Anyway, I would keep the camera aimed at the horizon, so the sun wouldn't be very high in the sky (and, therefore, not as intense as it is at noon). I'd let the camera's auto setting choose the exposure.

So is the A75's CCD too sensitive to handle the sunset?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BruceC
Senior Member
Avatar
751 posts
Joined Dec 2004
Location: Florida, USA
     
Jan 03, 2005 17:26 |  #2

My A75 manual says not to point the camara directly into the sun which could damage your eyes. So I dont know if it says that for your safety of the A75s. How do you do that timelapses?


www.ABCshots.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Bodryn
Senior Member
Avatar
446 posts
Joined Jul 2004
Location: Minnesota, Manitoba
     
Jan 03, 2005 17:41 |  #3

I'm no expert but I think probably the spot of focus where the sun hit the CCD would probably damage it due to excess heat buildup, if the sun is higher in the sky. You might try an experiment where you hold a similar sized lens out to the sun and hold a piece of paper up at the sun's focus. Or even just hold your finger at the focus. If your finger gets too hot, consider what that might do to the CCD. Electronic devices as a rule do not handle excess heat very well. But at low sun altitudes you probably can get away with it.


Bodryn ========
Canon A540; A720 IS; S5 IS; SX20 IS; Pentax *istDS + lots of lenses; Jasc PSP v.9;
"Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Moppie
Moderator
Avatar
15,102 posts
Gallery: 24 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 451
Joined Sep 2004
Location: Akarana, Aotearoa. (Kiwiland)
     
Jan 03, 2005 17:49 |  #4

What your doing is simply taking lots of shots of the setting sun, with out focusing directly on it.

I see no reason why it should harm the CCD, the setting sun is so low in intensity there won't be any problem.
I have nearly a hundred photos of sunsets, all taken with my A80, and none of them have done any noticable damage.

Shooting the sun repeatedly at midday however would lead to damage :)


flickr (external link)

Have you Calibrated your Monkey lately?

Now more than ever we need to be a community, working together and for each other, as photographers, as lovers of photography and as members of POTN.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
scorpius
THREAD ­ STARTER
Mostly Lurking
15 posts
Joined Dec 2004
     
Jan 04, 2005 14:51 as a reply to  @ Moppie's post |  #5

Bruce, to make the timelapse, I modified Apple's SDK to enable the cam to snap a picture once every 20 seconds and save it as a sequentially numbered tga file. I set it to go for 5 hours, then made the mpeg with the free tmpeg encoder. The camera has to be connected to the PC and a power adapter (the batteries only last for about ten pics).

The quality isn't that great, so I need to upgrade my camera. I want to buy an A75 because it can be on for 16 hours until the batteries die. All I have to do is modify the firmware to allow timelapse mode. But the A75 is out of stock in my area so I might have to go with another model, or wait.

Moppie, was the sun still yellow in your photos, or was it very dim and red?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Moppie
Moderator
Avatar
15,102 posts
Gallery: 24 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 451
Joined Sep 2004
Location: Akarana, Aotearoa. (Kiwiland)
     
Jan 04, 2005 19:28 as a reply to  @ scorpius's post |  #6

scorpius wrote:
Moppie, was the sun still yellow in your photos, or was it very dim and red?

Most were dim and red, getting close to the Horizon.
I have a few wheres its still quite yellow.

If you point the camera at any strong light source for any length of time it will damage the CCD, I imagine your old Kodak suffered some damage taking the time exposures.
But its cumlative, doing it once might not leave any noticeable effects, doing it 5 times starting at 4pm in the middle of summer will damage it.
But it will damage any digital camera.


flickr (external link)

Have you Calibrated your Monkey lately?

Now more than ever we need to be a community, working together and for each other, as photographers, as lovers of photography and as members of POTN.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BruceC
Senior Member
Avatar
751 posts
Joined Dec 2004
Location: Florida, USA
     
Jan 04, 2005 19:57 |  #7

Ah i see change the firmware. Could you direct me to a website where I might learn alittle about this stuff. Also you can get the A75 from amazon.com for $148 shipped new. Thats where I just bought mine.


www.ABCshots.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
scorpius
THREAD ­ STARTER
Mostly Lurking
15 posts
Joined Dec 2004
     
Jan 07, 2005 16:41 |  #8

The canon cameras use good-old DOS as the operating system. So you have to know some assembly (or C) to make modifications. Are you interested in timelapse also? Let me know if you want to help me figure it out.

These two sites have loads of info about firmware:
http://groups.yahoo.co​m …Shot_programmin​g_research (external link)
http://groups.yahoo.co​m/group/canondigicamha​cking (external link)

This allows for longer movies:
http://nostromo.dynali​as.org/canonhacking (external link)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BruceC
Senior Member
Avatar
751 posts
Joined Dec 2004
Location: Florida, USA
     
Jan 07, 2005 17:22 |  #9

wow this is really cool. I used to love DOS! Still do. Thanks!


www.ABCshots.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
scorpius
THREAD ­ STARTER
Mostly Lurking
15 posts
Joined Dec 2004
     
Jan 07, 2005 21:50 |  #10

Can anyone verify if the A75 works with the Remote Capture application? I want to use it for time lapses, and want to know how many frames at 640x480 I can capture per second. I have a USB 2.0 port and a 3.6GHz PC -- how fast does it tranfer from the CF card?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

2,672 views & 0 likes for this thread, 4 members have posted to it.
A75 + TimeLapse of Sun = Damage?
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Small Compact Digitals by Canon 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is AlainPre
1350 guests, 140 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.