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MikeFairbanks
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Jun 17, 2011 14:07 |  #7411

Drakeskakes wrote in post #12610702 (external link)
Yeah, lets ignore the fact the first picture is a wave 8-10 and the second is 4-6...

www.clarkography.com (external link) wasn't a high level surfer at any point in his life, and I think hes one of the best surf photographers i've seen


Uh, okay. I can tell you're from the East Coast.

Most surfers in CA would call the first picture 5-6 and the second 3-4.

The Hawaiians would call the first picture 2-3 and the last one ride-able.

But, generally, most surfers say "knee-high, waist, chest, head-high, overhead, double, etc.").


And, yes, those photos at Clarkography are good, but that doesn't change the fact that most surf photographers were advanced surfers first.

Check out the photographers from Surfer, Surfing, and Transworld Surf Magazines.


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Jun 17, 2011 14:09 |  #7412

Here's a surf photo shot from a helicopter. It's a fantastic shot, but the wave size is flattened, so-to-speak.

http://seandavey.com …ne-on-the-north-shore-o-3 (external link)


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Jun 17, 2011 14:55 as a reply to  @ MikeFairbanks's post |  #7413

Mike, thanks for all the info on Surfing and Photography! Its always been a thing I've talked about because I think it would be pretty amazing to work on the beach all day long..LOL

I always thought it would be cool since my wife and I usually shoot events as a team to have her on the beach with the big lens and me be in the water with a housing. Same gallery the images would go to but it would be a one stop shop so to speak. Problem is we live in Florida and waves are somewhat of a joke here on the Gulf of Mexico, unless there's a hurricane blowing in

Thanks again for the info


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Jun 17, 2011 15:19 |  #7414

There are actually some pretty darn good waves in Florida.

Panama City is 250 miles from you (about five hours or so) and there's a state park there called St. Andrew's. When you go to the southernmost point you'll see an inlet. A mile across that inlet is an uninhabited island (Shell Island, I think). There's a jetty stretching out into the gulf from that island. There's an amazing surfspot there called Amazons. The locals simply call it The Pass. Big waves, good waves. Shea and Corey Lopez, two professional surfers who grew up there, made it to the top level of professional surfing and stayed on tour for years. Both are still world travelers. Amazons needs a strong low pressure system in the Gulf of Mexico (not too close, though, or the winds will ruin the water texture). If a low parks in the gulf for a couple days, the Pass will get waves. Rent or borrow a boat, stay in the deep water, and shoot all day.

If you go 240 miles southeast from Cedar Key, you'll get to Sebastian Inlet, Florida's (arguably) best wave. It's rarely the biggest wave in Florida (that would be Reef Road in Palm Beach), but it's consistently an excellent wave to photograph. It breaks on a jetty and, due to the direction of the jetty, forces the waves to wedge up into bigger faces. A two foot wave will jack up to about waist to chest high. Plus, it blocks much of the wind, making the water smoother. Most of Brevard County is a great place to surf.

However, if you want convenience (relative to the other two spots), try St. Augustine. It's hard to get it good (gets windy, and the water is often a murky-green), but it can be really good and the surfers are good too. Gabe Kling (world tour...best group in the world) is from St. Auggie. St. Augustine is only 130 miles from Cedar Key.

Then there's New Smyrna Beach. It's northeast (just south of Daytona Beach). It is rated as the most consistent in terms of surfable days (waves above a foot, generally). And it's the sharkiest spot in the world. Volusia County averages over 25 bites a year, mostly on surfers and swimmers (duh).

Finally, if you know your strobe work, head on over to Typhoon Lagoon at Disney World. Normally it's a mess of tourists and waves (wave machine) splashing around. But what most people (except surfers) don't know is that the wave can actually be shaped by the engineers.

They rent it out to surfers at night. It's usually a thousand bucks for a hundred waves (or something like that...really expensive, actually) but surfers are constantly renting it anyway. Something different.


Keep in mind that the greatest professional surfer the world has ever known is from Cocoa beach, Florida (Brevard County). Ten-time World Champion.

The Australians have more overall championships than the Hawaiians and Americans (considered two separate countries in pro surfing), but nobody else in the world has even half as many world championship titles as Kelly Slater of Florida. The next closest is Australian Mark Richards.

For the last twenty years, the Floridians have consistently done well on the world stage in professional surfing. Most are from the East Coast, and of those, most are from Brevard County.

Brevard County (and most of the East Coast of Florida) has a thriving surf community.


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Jun 17, 2011 18:29 |  #7415

Wow, that's a lot of great info. I've never surfed, but I've been around the ocean enough that hopefully some of it rubbed off :)

My cousin hires a ship to watch Mavericks from the harbor, so for next year's I was hoping to tag along with some ridiculous rental lens attached to the camera.


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Jun 17, 2011 19:19 |  #7416

bior wrote in post #12612005 (external link)
Wow, that's a lot of great info. I've never surfed, but I've been around the ocean enough that hopefully some of it rubbed off :)

My cousin hires a ship to watch Mavericks from the harbor, so for next year's I was hoping to tag along with some ridiculous rental lens attached to the camera.

Go for it. Chances are very, very likely you won't have an accident. Waves break in shallow water, and harbors are built where deep water butts up to land. That makes sense, since slow-moving boats don't want to encounter waves. Plus, at Half Moon Bay, there are rock jetties to keep the waves from spilling into the harbor entrance. They do a great job 99% of the time (there's always a chance that a big one comes through. Last year at the Maverick's contest spectators on the jetty got washed into the drink).

Check out this 1 minute, 21 second video. Looks like a freaking tsunami: takes out a couple dozen spectators, and at 24 seconds is a girl with what looks like a GF2, drenched.

Warning: Graphic footage of Canon cameras getting drenched by salt water.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=8Pp8gNKq2EM (external link)

Here's another of the same event from a higher perspective:

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=jV7KhSdUQPU (external link)

And this one is raw helicopter footage of the scene. People up on cliffs. Crazy.

http://abclocal.go.com​/kgo/video?id=7275993 (external link)


This one is probably the best: Ground-level. http://www.liveleak.co​m/view?i=836_126611171​3 (external link)


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Jun 17, 2011 19:29 as a reply to  @ MikeFairbanks's post |  #7417

I hear Beach Boy music in the background




  
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Jun 17, 2011 19:53 |  #7418

Some photography accidents:

Again, graphic warning: Cameras get hurt (and L-lenses). Proceed with caution.


Watch where you step:
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=YQs8UVeczX0 (external link)

Do you think my camera can get wet taking pictures at a waterpark?
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=LzBDOjhN5uk (external link)

This is what happens when Russians argue about Nikons and Canons.
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=WZgD5sWoW4w (external link)

Now, this is one cool cat. Not only does he almost get killed (the photographer) but has the wits to take a few shots before going to help the car driver who crashed and almost killed him.
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=gFdGKeQph-Q (external link)

Bird defeats photographer: http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=rDftbccwjS4 (external link)

And, of course, the classic: http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=r3cvsImyIZA (external link)


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Jun 17, 2011 20:33 |  #7419

Hey Mike, What's that LF camera in your avatar?


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Jun 17, 2011 21:08 |  #7420

Cuypers1807 wrote in post #12612530 (external link)
Hey Mike, What's that LF camera in your avatar?

Actually, that's a fixed prop at Disney World (Epcot center).

It's in France, right next to the wine station.

I bought a beret (and learned it was made in China...of course), and then saw the camera. I set up the shot, handed the camera to my wife, and she took the photo.

It may have been a real camera at one time, but not anymore. Just a prop bolted to the ground.

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Jun 17, 2011 21:40 |  #7421

Cool... I only asked because I just got into large format photography. Thanks!


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Jun 18, 2011 15:50 as a reply to  @ Cuypers1807's post |  #7422

This is what happens when Russians argue about Nikons and Canons.
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=WZgD5sWoW4w (external link)

Ok, that's just crazy and the dude picks up the video camera and chucks it at the guy that smashed it....LOL


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Jun 18, 2011 15:53 as a reply to  @ Cuypers1807's post |  #7423

Keep in mind that the greatest professional surfer the world has ever known is from Cocoa beach, Florida (Brevard County). Ten-time World Champion.

I lived in West Palm Beach a long time ago (Early 90's) and hung around a couple of locals who were big into the Surfing scene.

I remembered them saying "Yeah, we were up in Cocoa Beach all weekend surfing with Slater and he's coming down here next weekend to surf with us."

Back then, I was shooting Fashion Stuff, so I never even thought about surfing photography, but thanks for the info on Florida surfers


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Jun 18, 2011 16:54 |  #7424

That video is 110% staged...


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Jun 18, 2011 19:21 |  #7425

I caught this earlier this morning and I thought it was pretty cute. Notice the little girl is using a blade of grass pretending to be like her dad.

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