Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
Thread started 28 Jun 2008 (Saturday) 20:42
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Whats your keeper ratio?

 
PhotoJourno
High Plains Chimper
Avatar
5,681 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 68
Joined Mar 2006
Location: Lago, CA
     
Jun 28, 2008 22:08 |  #16

Best photos for around the house -for me- are 50mm, as you can get close or far, but use aperture to control the sometimes messy background. Izzy is going to be two in October. I did not mean to hijack your thread, but thought maybe an example would illustrate better than a thousand words. specially with super wiggly kids. :)


--Mario
"Sensa luce non si vede nessuna cosa"--Lorenzo Ghiberti

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DStanic
Cream of the Crop
6,148 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Canada
     
Jun 28, 2008 22:16 |  #17

threeinthenest wrote in post #5811844 (external link)
Hey, thanks for sharing that about the 50mm, what is the deal with that? I am glad to hear you like your Sigma, would love to have the 24-70, but its so expensive and so heavy!

If you want the 24-70L but can't afford it, check out HERE (external link) the 24-60 is CHEEEEP! ;) There is a Sigma 24-60 thread and while everybody loves this lens, there are a small number who have had to send it to sigma to get it calibrated due to focusing issues. Fortunatly mine came tack-sharp out of the box. :) Others who have sent it in (only have to pay for shipping.. covered under waranty) have been very happy after calibration.

As for weight, it's a very solid lens, but I don't find it heavy. The 24-60 weighs approx 550g (just a hair heavier than the Sigma 17-70 at 450g.) The 24-70 2.8L is much heavier at 950g!


Sony A6000, 16-50PZ, 55-210, 35mm 1.8 OSS
Canon 60D, 30D
Tamron 28-75 2.8, Tamron 17-35, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 85mm 1.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Persephone
Goldmember
Avatar
1,122 posts
Joined May 2008
Location: CA
     
Jun 29, 2008 01:09 |  #18

I do everyday photography with my Nikon, and I kept 86% of the photographs for February and 88% of the photographs for April, the last two months where I have raw data. This excludes photographs that I already deleted off the camera before unloading it onto my hard drive.


Gear list
"Do you think it was my choice to wed a man I did not love? Live a life I did not choose? I was betrayed by the very gods that once saw me as their own. But no more." - Περσεφόνη (external link), God of War

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
doidinho
Goldmember
Avatar
3,352 posts
Likes: 23
Joined Aug 2007
Location: Kenmore, Washington
     
Jun 29, 2008 01:24 |  #19

threeinthenest wrote in post #5811765 (external link)
Wow! Thanks everyone! My main issue keeping up with my kiddos, getting my 2YO to even look my way is extremely frustrating. I do have issues with focus, still trying to hone in on those skills! I pretty much only shoot with my 60mm, I really cannot remember when I last used my kit lens.........hmmmm, perhaps its me and not the gear...........hahaaa. Anyway, I just tend to have lots of elbows, cut off heads, never can catch a natural smile.....or maybe its just my kids! Anyway, hoping to invest in a few lenses in the next few months-probably the 50, 85, and Sigma 17-70. Sometimes I really hate my 60, it hunts like crazy-but again-probably me!

Keeping up with youngsters is like photo boot camp. Analyze you shots and what went wrong and you will improve rapidly.


Robert McCadden
My Flickr (external link)
MM (external link)
5DMKII, Rebel xti, 24-105 f/4L, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 17-40.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
degarr
Mostly Lurking
16 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
     
Jun 29, 2008 07:51 |  #20

PhotoJourno wrote in post #5811828 (external link)
Sorry, I went and looked really quick. I took 32 frames, and three real keepers. Here is one, for example.

First a keeper, the second a typical almost good photo.

And the 1st is a keeper you will show all and the second is the one you will take some time about pressing delete as just because it is a bit oof does not mean you you do not want to keep it


Canon 5D Mark II & Canon 7D
16-35 F/2.8L 24-70 F/2.8L, [COLOR=black]70-200 F/2.8L IS, Nifty 50 F/1.8, EFS 10-22, Tamron 17-50 & 18-250, 580EX II, 430 EX, TCs 1.4 & 2.0 & Lots of other stuff that keeps me occupied but still learning heaps including video / audio with Zoom H4N

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
degarr
Mostly Lurking
16 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
     
Jun 29, 2008 07:54 |  #21

doidinho wrote in post #5812822 (external link)
Keeping up with youngsters is like photo boot camp. Analyze you shots and what went wrong and you will improve rapidly.

Keeping up with youngsters is like absolute madness:)


Canon 5D Mark II & Canon 7D
16-35 F/2.8L 24-70 F/2.8L, [COLOR=black]70-200 F/2.8L IS, Nifty 50 F/1.8, EFS 10-22, Tamron 17-50 & 18-250, 580EX II, 430 EX, TCs 1.4 & 2.0 & Lots of other stuff that keeps me occupied but still learning heaps including video / audio with Zoom H4N

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cricketboy75
Senior Member
665 posts
Joined Aug 2007
     
Jun 29, 2008 08:11 |  #22

my keepers are less than 20%, but i find that when i use film, it's closer to 40%-50%. maybe i'm just more careful and deliberate when using film...




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
saravrose
"I quit smoking dope"
Avatar
9,562 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Between here and there
     
Jun 29, 2008 13:01 |  #23

I think it depends on what i'm after. If it's a matter of composition capturing 'something' etc... it's a bit higher than the technically correct exposure and focus are right. For the most part I'm not that concerned with how many keepers I have to how many shots. I can say that once I switched to RAW and started using 1G cards vs. 2G cards my keeper ratio went up. The best advice given to me was by Condyk when he told me to pretend that I was shooting film and make sure you have the shot before pressing the shutter..


Canon 30D BG_E2 Grip Rebel XT BG-E3 battery grip
Canon 50mm f1.8 Tamron 17-50 f2.8
Canon 70-200f4.0L 100-400L aka (Chuck)
a couple of bags and a lot of big ideas
"The shot is in my head before it's in front of my camera...."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
threeinthenest
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
675 posts
Joined Feb 2007
Location: OOOOOOOOOOKLAHOMA!
     
Jun 29, 2008 14:17 |  #24

saravrose wrote in post #5815077 (external link)
I think it depends on what i'm after. If it's a matter of composition capturing 'something' etc... it's a bit higher than the technically correct exposure and focus are right. For the most part I'm not that concerned with how many keepers I have to how many shots. I can say that once I switched to RAW and started using 1G cards vs. 2G cards my keeper ratio went up. The best advice given to me was by Condyk when he told me to pretend that I was shooting film and make sure you have the shot before pressing the shutter..

wow, that is great advice-a lot of times I find myself just shooting, hoping to end up with something, rather than being patient and waiting it out a bit, thanks for the reminder.



Great advice everyone, thank you so much!


GEAR: 5D ~ 50mm f/1.8 ~ 85 f/1.8 ~

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PhotoJourno
High Plains Chimper
Avatar
5,681 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 68
Joined Mar 2006
Location: Lago, CA
     
Jun 29, 2008 15:11 |  #25

saravrose wrote in post #5815077 (external link)
I think it depends on what i'm after. If it's a matter of composition capturing 'something' etc... it's a bit higher than the technically correct exposure and focus are right. For the most part I'm not that concerned with how many keepers I have to how many shots. I can say that once I switched to RAW and started using 1G cards vs. 2G cards my keeper ratio went up. The best advice given to me was by Condyk when he told me to pretend that I was shooting film and make sure you have the shot before pressing the shutter..

Interesting point and really good insight, huh. I do see often photogs at a local T-ball game using their 1Ds in burst mode (8fps-10fps), practically capturing a motion movie, rather than just the moment. When I first jumped into digital photography, I was the same way.

I think this is a good exercise, to take each frame one at a time, as if it were film.


--Mario
"Sensa luce non si vede nessuna cosa"--Lorenzo Ghiberti

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
AnthonyLin
Member
75 posts
Joined Jun 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
     
Jun 29, 2008 15:57 |  #26

It really depends.

If I'm shooting low-light, handheld, night photogs, my keeper rate plummets. It's gotten as bad as 1:5 or more. Unfortunately, that's what I shoot about 80% of the time. A 055XPROB tripod and 488RC2 head are on its way =)


Canon EOS 40D, 17-55 f/2.8 IS, 50 f/1.8, 28-135 f/3.5-5.6 IS, 580EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Goincarcrazy
Goldmember
Avatar
2,961 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Jun 2008
Location: Jacksonville, FL
     
Aug 07, 2008 13:26 as a reply to  @ AnthonyLin's post |  #27

Being new to DLSR photography, I try to teach myself new things as I go along. I started out with landscape and nature shots as that's what I was most familiar with, then moved on to indoor/portrait shots (still working on this one a bit), and am starting to get into macro (I'll be more into it when I splurge on the 100m f/2.8 macro lens), then from there I have no idea what I'll go onto.

Because of this, my keeper rate is pretty low when I start a new subject, then once they get higher, I move on so it drops again.


Website: Photography By NC (external link)
More Photos:Flickr (external link)

Canon 5D Mark II - Canon 50D - 24-70mm L f/2.8 - 100-400mm L IS f/4.5-5.6 - 50mm f/1.4 - MP-E 65mm Macro - 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro - 600mm L f/4 IS - 1.4x Teleconverter - Kenko Extension Tubes - Speedlight 430EX - MT-24EX Twin-Lite

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mr_J
Member
Avatar
47 posts
Joined May 2008
Location: San Francisco
     
Aug 07, 2008 19:14 |  #28

I am new to photogrpahy, so I try to shoot for about a 10% keeper rate. I find myself being very critical of the shots that I am taking, but when I look back I am happy with the results.


Mr_J-http://www.flickr.com/​photos/blackdogphotos/
Canon 40D, Tamron 17-50 f2.8, 50mm f1.8, Canon 70-200 f2.8L, Canon S5IS
Diana+ 120mm
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/blackdogphotos/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tonybear007
Goldmember
1,650 posts
Gallery: 95 photos
Likes: 938
Joined Sep 2007
Location: South Florida
     
Aug 07, 2008 23:29 |  #29

Very interesting question.

When I was using my EOS 3 and Fuji Velvia 35mm slide my keeper rate was over 60 % because I was meticulous in composing and metering every shot. Developing slides is expensive so I could not afford the "spray and pray" technique.

Now that I have the EOS 40D I am more "wasteful" and my keeper rate has fallen below 50%. The only exception is when I am shooting landscapes with very good lighting conditions. When using flash with my 420EX, I keep about 10%.


EOS 77D, 7D, Canon 16-35mm f/4L IS, Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L, Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II
Birds Spotted in Florida (external link) Facebook
@BirdsSpotted (external link) Twitter
Canon 77D Facebook Page (external link)
@Canon77D (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
KarlosDaJackal
Goldmember
Avatar
1,740 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Jul 2008
Location: Dublin, Ireland
     
Aug 08, 2008 02:47 as a reply to  @ tonybear007's post |  #30

Keeper rate is a totally useless measure of camera/lens/photog performace.

A: I could take 3 shots of everything with AEB, and if one of them is good I would have a keeper rate of 33%
B: I could take 1 shot but think about it and take 10 times as long to take that 1 shot, but it would be a keeper and my rate would be 100%

Trouble is, at the end of that I'd still only have 1 photo :lol:


My Website (external link) - Flick (external link)r (external link) - Model Mayhem (external link) - Folio32 (external link)
Gimp Tutorials by me on POTN
Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

3,214 views & 0 likes for this thread, 26 members have posted to it.
Whats your keeper ratio?
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
2981 guests, 130 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.