Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
Thread started 30 Jun 2008 (Monday) 14:31
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

What produces a better (vivid) image: higher iso or lower speed?

 
Fellipe ­ de ­ Paula
Senior Member
438 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Brazil
     
Jun 30, 2008 14:31 |  #1

When you can choose between a high iso or a lower shutter speed whic option is better to achieve a better photography, (as better I mean realistic feel)

higher iso or lower speed?


www.fellipedepaula.com​.br (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bieber
Goldmember
Avatar
1,992 posts
Joined Dec 2006
Location: Bradenton, FL
     
Jun 30, 2008 14:54 |  #2

Higher ISO can produce noise, and lower shutter speed can produce motion blur. You have to decide which is worse, and do what you need to avoid it.


EOS 20D w/ BG-E2 grip
Nifty fifty, EF 28mm f/2.8, EF 70-200mm f/4L USM
Speedlights SB-25/SB-26/580EX, Pocket Wizards and such
My Gallery (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ChrisRabior
Senior Member
826 posts
Joined Mar 2007
Location: Metro Detroit
     
Jun 30, 2008 16:35 |  #3

Neither in and of itself is going to make a good picture. The more realistic feel comes from proper exposure, and that's a mix of shutter speed, aperture, and ISO. Something of a trio. Since they all basically effect the other when it comes to achieving the right exposure, no single one of them is going to 'make better photography'.

If 'freezing motion' is you goal, then obviously you want to pick a shutter speed appropriate to stop the motion, and play with the aperture and ISO until you get the proper exposure out of it. Of course, that depends on how important the DOF is going to be.


My Gear | My Alamy (external link) | My Website (external link) | MMA Photography (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Persephone
Goldmember
Avatar
1,122 posts
Joined May 2008
Location: CA
     
Jun 30, 2008 20:37 |  #4

bieber wrote in post #5822195 (external link)
Higher ISO can produce noise, and lower shutter speed can produce motion blur. You have to decide which is worse, and do what you need to avoid it.

I think most people would prefer noiser images than blurry ones.


Gear list
"Do you think it was my choice to wed a man I did not love? Live a life I did not choose? I was betrayed by the very gods that once saw me as their own. But no more." - Περσεφόνη (external link), God of War

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DStanic
Cream of the Crop
6,148 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Canada
     
Jun 30, 2008 21:18 |  #5

I would have to agree with others- I'd rather have some noise than risk a blurry image. But there is no right or wrong answer here- it depends what you are shooting and what kind of effect you are going for. If you shot traffic on a highway at 1/4000 you would freeze everything but is that what you really see? I/250 might be more realistic.


Sony A6000, 16-50PZ, 55-210, 35mm 1.8 OSS
Canon 60D, 30D
Tamron 28-75 2.8, Tamron 17-35, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 85mm 1.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PhotosGuy
Cream of the Crop, R.I.P.
Avatar
75,941 posts
Gallery: 8 photos
Likes: 2611
Joined Feb 2004
Location: Middle of Michigan
     
Jun 30, 2008 22:41 |  #6

Gavin shoots everything at high ISO & provides fun captions as well. The first & many other images are at ISO Speed Ratings = 1600!
The week's sporting events in images...


FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything...
Classic Carz, Racing, Air Show, Flowers.
Find the light... A few Car Lighting Tips, and MOVE YOUR FEET!
Have you thought about making your own book? // Need an exposure crutch?
New Image Size Limits: Image must not exceed 1600 pixels on any side.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
blackcap
Senior Member
415 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2007
     
Jul 01, 2008 05:57 |  #7

I don't think you're asking the right question really. Neither will give you a more 'realistic' feel in itself. But, as others have pointed out, the difference is higher noise or possible motion blur. If you have no moving objects and can use a tripod, go with the slower shutter speed for less noise. With slower shutter speeds water tends to look silkier so I guess that's less realistic, but IMO looks better.


_______________
www.chrisgin.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DStanic
Cream of the Crop
6,148 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Canada
     
Jul 01, 2008 08:07 |  #8

PhotosGuy wrote in post #5824824 (external link)
Gavin shoots everything at high ISO & provides fun captions as well. The first & many other images are at ISO Speed Ratings = 1600!
The week's sporting events in images...

That's all great when you are using a 1DmkII like him, but you probably wouldn't want to be shooting quite that high ISO with a Rebel series or 20/30/40D. I accidentally left mine on ISO800 in the daytime and got some unwanted noise.


Sony A6000, 16-50PZ, 55-210, 35mm 1.8 OSS
Canon 60D, 30D
Tamron 28-75 2.8, Tamron 17-35, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 85mm 1.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PhotosGuy
Cream of the Crop, R.I.P.
Avatar
75,941 posts
Gallery: 8 photos
Likes: 2611
Joined Feb 2004
Location: Middle of Michigan
     
Jul 01, 2008 09:18 |  #9

I accidentally left mine on ISO800 in the daytime and got some unwanted noise.

Try getting the exposure "right on" & I think you'll see better results. You will still see some noise in the dark areas though, but it's an easy fix.


FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything...
Classic Carz, Racing, Air Show, Flowers.
Find the light... A few Car Lighting Tips, and MOVE YOUR FEET!
Have you thought about making your own book? // Need an exposure crutch?
New Image Size Limits: Image must not exceed 1600 pixels on any side.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DStanic
Cream of the Crop
6,148 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Canada
     
Jul 01, 2008 09:43 |  #10

PhotosGuy wrote in post #5827136 (external link)
Try getting the exposure "right on" & I think you'll see better results. You will still see some noise in the dark areas though, but it's an easy fix.


The pics I shot at ISO800 weren't unusable, but their skin tone have a little bit of noise at IOS800. It was set too high for the situation, cause the shutter speed was all the way to 1/4000-max on the 400D. I think it was a mistake and I meant to use ISO400 which would have been perfect. I was shooting engagement photos for a friend at the park, so I was moving all over the place and didn't want to have blurry pics so I purposely had the ISO a bit higher than usual. Non of my 180 pics were blurry. :)
Lucky the exposure was not off by too much (underexposed just a touch) I was able to make them look pretty good in Lightroom with a little NR (good enough for small prints anyways). The weather was screwy that day- overcast then sunny then overcast again, so I was jumping all over the place with the ISOs from 100 to 400. Looking back shooting in manual would have been better, but I need more practise I'm best in Av mode at the moment. Having the ISO in the viewfinder and an Auto ISO feature would have helped!! I see now why people love the 20->40Ds for their faster button operation over the Rebels. It's just a matter of time until the 30D is so cheap I can't resist! Almost had a $250 20D but I think the seller ignored my PM cause he likely didn't want to ship to Canada or something.


Sony A6000, 16-50PZ, 55-210, 35mm 1.8 OSS
Canon 60D, 30D
Tamron 28-75 2.8, Tamron 17-35, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 85mm 1.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

2,577 views & 0 likes for this thread, 7 members have posted to it.
What produces a better (vivid) image: higher iso or lower speed?
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
2625 guests, 154 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.